America Speaks On Health Care, Why Aren't Obama And The Democrats Listening?

MarineReconDad — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:56:42 GMT

As health care reform legislation moves forward in Washington, the political environment is somewhat different than the last time a major overhaul of the health care system was attempted sixteen years ago. In early 1993 the sense of a health care crisis was far more widespread than it is today – a 55% majority in 1993 said they felt the health care system needed to be “completely rebuilt” compared with 41% today. Health care costs were also a broader problem in 1993 – 63% of Americans said paying for the cost of a major illness was a “major problem” for them, compared with 48% currently.

The issue of limiting overall health care spending is also more prominent in 2009 than it was in 1993. Somewhat fewer today say the country spends “too little” on health care, and a larger share believe that limiting the overall growth in health care costs is a higher priority than expanding coverage. But overall, public support for guaranteed access to medical care for all Americans remains widespread. Health Care Spending
Relatively few Americans believe the country as a whole is spending the right amount on health care at this point, but there is no consensus on what the problem is. Just as many Americans say we are spending too much on health care (38%) as too little (40%).

This represents a sharp turnaround in the balance of opinion from three years ago. In early 2006, a 57% majority said that the country as a whole was spending too little on health care, while about half as many (26%) said we were spending too much. And this shift in opinion crosses party lines – more Democrats, Republicans and independents today say the country spends too much on health care than said this in 2006.

In April 1993 – as Bill Clinton was initiating his health care reform effort – 49% of Americans felt the country was spending too little on health care, while 36% said the country was spending too much. Just a year later – in June of 1994 – the public was divided, much as it is today, with 38% saying too much and 40% saying too little.

Most Democrats (51%) believe we are spending too little on health care in this country, while about a third (34%) say too much. By comparison, a plurality of Republicans (43%) say we are currently spending too much on health care, with 30% saying too little. Overall, the share of Americans saying we spend too much on health care rose from 26% to 38% since 2006, and this rise occurred among Republicans (up eight points), Democrats (up 14 points) and independents (up 11 points) alike.

While a minority viewpoint, Republicans are roughly twice as likely as Democrats (19% vs. 10%) to say the country is spending the right amount on health care. This viewpoint is particularly prevalent among conservative Republicans, 23% of whom express satisfaction about current levels of health care spending.

By a 50% to 30% margin college graduates are more likely to say the country spends too much, not too little, on health care. By contrast, adults with no more than a high school diploma tend to think we spend too little (46%) not too much (32%) on health care in this country. There is a similar, though less prominent, pattern when it comes to income levels. Most Back Overhaul; Fewer Than in 1993 See Crisis
Most Americans believe that the nation’s health care system is in need of substantial changes. Four-in-ten (41%) say the health care system needs to be completely rebuilt, while 30% think it needs fundamental changes. About one-in-four (24%) believe that the health care system works pretty well and needs only minor changes.

But there is less support for completely rebuilding the health care system than there was during the early stage of the Clinton administration’s unsuccessful effort to revamp health care. In April 1993, a majority of Americans (55%) said the health care system needed to be completely rebuilt. As discussion of Clinton’s proposals progressed, support for completely rebuilding the health care system declined. By June 1994, just 37% said the health care system needed to be completely rebuilt.

Support for a complete rebuilding of the health care system is lower than in early 1993 among all partisan groups. Today, 53% of Democrats, 38% of independents and 28% of Republicans support completely rebuilding the health care system. In April of 1993, 70% of Democrats, 55% of independents, and 41% of Republicans supported completely rebuilding the system.

People with no more than a high school education (47%) or some college (42%) are far more likely than are college graduates (31%) to favor a complete rebuilding of the health care system. The education gap was even wider in 1993, when 63% of those with no-college and 56% of those with some college education said the system needed to be completely rebuilt, compared with 36% of college graduates. Income is also a factor, with those living in low income households backing the most dramatic overhaul of the health care system. Health Reform Priorities
Most Americans favor ensuring health coverage to all Americans, and most also say it is very important to limit the overall annual increase in health care costs. Neither of these objectives, however, receives as overwhelming support as they did in early 1993. When Americans are asked to prioritize between these two goals, most continue to say that expanding health insurance to all is the more important goal. But the share who rate costs as the more important concern is nearly double what it was in 1993.

The public’s overall support for expanding health insurance to cover all Americans remains widespread, though more sharply partisan than in 1993. In the spring of that year, 83% of Americans favored changing the health care system so that all Americans would have health insurance that covers all medically necessary care. Today, 75% support such a reform.

The difference is that support for universal health insurance was more bipartisan in early 1993 than it is today. While there has always been a partisan gap, two-thirds (67%) of Republicans said they favored health coverage for all Americans in 1993, compared with barely half (52%) today. By contrast, the share of Democrats backing this kind of change remained a solid 92% in both years.

There has also been a 15-point drop in the share of independents backing universal health insurance – from 89% in 1993 to 74% today.

The share of Americans who say it is very important to change the health care system in this country in order to limit the overall annual increase in the nation’s health care costs is also slightly lower today (61%) than in 1993 (69%). Today fewer than half of Republicans (47%) rate this as very important, compared with 72% of Democrats and 60% of independents.

When asked whether reining in health care costs or expanding health care coverage is the more important goal for the nation, 56% prioritize guaranteeing access to all while 36% side with limiting growing health care costs. Opinion was more one-sided in early 1993, when 74% prioritized expanded health care coverage and just 20% saw reining in costs as the bigger concern.

The balance of opinion among Republicans is the reverse of what it was in 1993. Then, 55% prioritized expanded care while 37% emphasized reining in costs. Today, 37% prioritize expanded care while 54% emphasize reining in costs. While most Democrats and independents continue to see expanding access to health care coverage as the higher priority, it is by slimmer margins than was the case sixteen years ago. Fewer See Cost of Care as Major Problem
In the current survey, far fewer say health care expenses are a major problem for themselves and their families than was the case in 1993. Just under half of Americans (48%) say that paying for the cost of a major illness is a major problem, substantially lower than the 63% who said this in early 1993. Similarly, about a third of Americans (34%) say paying for the cost of routine medical care is a major problem for them. In 1993, 40% said this was the case.

But for the most part, it is those who are relatively well off who are feeling more at ease. Just 27% of high income Americans say the cost of a major illness is a major problem for them today, down from 48% in 1993. By comparison, 67% of low income Americans say this is a major problem, little changed from 73% sixteen years ago.

Similarly, the share of high income Americans who say paying for routine medical care is a major problem fell from 25% in 1993 to 13% today. Meanwhile, just over half of low income Americans – at both points in time – say this is a major problem for them.

There is far less concern about the quality and availability of medical care in people’s communities. Just 24% say the quality of medical care in their community is a major problem for them and their families, and 21% say the availability of medical care is a major problem. These figures are virtually unchanged from 1993. Income is an overwhelming factor in these assessments, as lower income people are far more likely than higher income people to say health care quality and availability are major problems for them.

Nationwide, 43% of Americans say paying for the cost of health insurance poses a major problem for them and their family. Fully 59% of Americans with family incomes under $30,000 say health insurance is a major problem for them. Not surprisingly among the low income who currently have no health insurance 73% rate insurance costs as a major problem.

The share of Americans who say paying for the cost of prescription drugs is a major problem dropped from 44% in 2006 to 34% today. This decline has occurred across both age and income categories at about equal rates.

The Democrats are always to use the statement," America has spoken!", when it comes to the election or anything else THEY want to do!

Why is it they believe that Americans have NOT spoken now?

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American Patriot — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:40:33 GMT

HEALTHCARE: King OBAMA'S WATERLOO

To quote the esteemed Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the chickens that were hatched in the stimulus package are coming home to roost in the healthcare proposal. The budget deficit King Obama racked up paying for the massive federal spending passed in January is now having a real economic and political impact, which is forcing the president and his congressional allies into hard choices as they face his healthcare legislation.

Of course, the prudent thing to do is postpone healthcare changes until the economy generates some revenues and trims the deficit. But the socialist in the White House can't do that. He's got to strike while his congressional majority is hot. So he is forcing his administration and his party to choose among unpalatable choices to finance his program. His demand may be a bridge too far, endangering his popularity with the American people.

First of all, the very fact of a focus on healthcare reform inevitably stirs discussion of the deficit. Americans are allergic to deficit spending and worry the more the deficit grows. As interest rates rise and the government finds it more and more difficult to borrow enough to cover King Obama's massive spending, the economy is likely to show the negative effects. It is a matter of a few months, certainly no more, before voters start to realize that it is the deficit, not the pre-existing conditions King Obama inherited, which is causing the prolongation of the recession. Already the jump in mortgage rates has slowed the refinancing, which was the only aspect of the King Obama economic program that was working well.

But the foreign and domestic focus on the deficit has a harsher political impact: It forces the Democrats to come up with money to fund healthcare reform. In other words, it makes them raise taxes. The Democratic Party is good at fooling itself that tax increases don't matter and are politically palatable, but they do and they are not.

The massive spending healthcare will require dwarfs the capacity for the rich alone to pay the bill, no matter how confiscatory King Obama chooses to become. Only broader taxes will do the job. King Obama faces two practical choices: a value added tax or taxing health insurance benefits.

The political harm either way will be enormous. Not only will King Obama be breaking his pledge not to tax the middle class, but he will be doing so in a particularly pernicious way. If Obama opts for the value added tax (VAT), Democrats will hope to cloak the increase in the price of the product. They reason that the consumer won't know how much the tax is since it will be added on throughout the sale and resale of the product rather than at the cash register at the end, as the sales tax is. But it will work the other way. As inflation sets in, triggered by King Obama's deficit spending, consumers will blame the whole thing on King Obama. His VAT will be much magnified in the voters' minds to include all of the inflation going on. Just as voters blamed Clinton's gas tax increase of five cents in 1993 for the entire run-up in gasoline prices at the pump, so they will place all the blame for inflation on Obama's VAT.

Or King Obama could tax healthcare benefits, a direct reversal of his campaign pledge. He would be adopting a policy for which he overtly and loudly criticized McCain. And his popularity will wilt as taxpayers suddenly have to add onto their tax liability the money their employer has always paid for their health insurance. Obama will probably have his own separate line on the 1040 and even on the short form for his new tax. That's not the way to stay popular.

King Obama's only good option is not to move so quickly on healthcare reform, to give himself some wiggle room. But as the song says, "we're knee deep in the big muddy but the damn fool says to push on!"

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Sweet Gypsey — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:17:39 GMT

Windfall Tax on Retirement Income

Adding a tax to your retirement is simply another way of saying to the American people, you're so darn stupid that we're going to keep doing this until we drain every cent from you. That's what the Speaker of the House is saying. Read below.................

Nancy Pelosi wants a Windfall Tax on Retirement Income. In other words tax what you have made by investing toward your retirement. This woman is a nut case! You aren't going to believe this.

Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put aWindfall Tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement fund, 401K and Mutual Funds! Alas, it is true - all to help the 12 Million Illegal Immigrants and other unemployed Minorities!

This woman is frightening.
She quotes...' We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income, (didn't Marx say something like this?), in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest.' (I am not rich, are you?)

When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied:
'We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long way to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as 'Americans'.'

(Read that quote again and again and let it sink in.) 'Lower your retirement, give it to others who have not worked as you have for it'.

Send it on to your friends. I just did!! This lady is out of her mind and she is the speaker of the house!

TANYA

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MarineReconDad — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:53:00 GMT

Two heartbeats away from the Presidency! Better hope a meteor doesn't come crashing down on DC! Pelosi would be safe she is RARELY there!

MRD

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94meetze — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:55:18 GMT

Please tell me that between Marinerecondad and American Patriot - they are aliens!

Tables, charts, statsitics, blogs, opiions, - all great tools.....vent, babble, negative attitudes, unAmerican Patriots, , lack of Respect for one's
Country.............. God help us all.

Get out of yourself! Look at the big picture. The difference betweeen the rut and the grave is the depth!

Where are you?

meetze94

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Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:52:25 GMT

FIRST OF ALL YOU ARE TALKING OF (2)TWO, OF THE BIGGEST "PATRIOTS ON YEDDA" THAT I KNOW, THERE ARE MANY OTHERS, BUT JUST BECAUCE DO NOT AGREE WITH OUR PARTY VALUES,IT DOES NOT, GET IT NOT,SAID THAT TWICE, SO YOU UNDERSTAND MAKE SOMEONE AS YOU PUT IT UN PATRIOTIC, YOU ARE WRONG, AND I COULD SAY THE SAME OF YOU, BUT I DO NOT KNOW ALL YOUR VIEWS AND I WONT!

BUT YOU ARE WAY OFF BASE ON THE TWO YOU PICKED OUT!!! DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

TANYA

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Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:20:42 GMT

MRD, NEED TO TELL YOU SOMETHING ONE OF YOUR POSTERS HAS A EVIL TWIN!

BACK TO SUBJECT, SHE AND HER FAB.,PEARLS WILL BE IN BUNKER 20 MILES DOWN, WHO IS 4TH IN LINE, NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT. I CAN'T BELIEVE I JUST ANSWERED A QUESTION FROM HE MUST HAVE BEEN A KOOL-AID DRINKER, AND SAID THAT YOU AND AMERICAN WERE UNPATROTIC, OF ALL PEOPLE, AND OF ALL TO ASK, THERE IS SO MUCH FROM LONG AGO THAT I WANT TO ASK YOU. MOST OF MY TIME IS ON THE OTHER SITE, I PUT MY 2CENTS IN WITH THE TROOPS!

SEMPER FI SIR

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

TANYA

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MarineReconDad — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:38:28 GMT

If I am unpatriotic because I do not goose step with Obama when he is systematically dismantling our country so be it! I am NOT a socialist, I am not a communist. If that makes me different than you I am PROUD to be so!

Disrespectful for ones country? I am afraid you have me confused with one who apologizes for everything that this GREAT country has done in the last 250 years!

ALL graves began with a rut! You'll realize that as they are throwing the last shovel of dirt on you!

I realize that charts and tables that expose the Obama Plan, scare the Kool aid drinkers but again, so be it.

Stick to the liberal posters on YEDDA so you can pat each other on the back!

The MOST inexperienced President at our MOST critical time in history with the LEAST traceable backround!

Is there something inaccurate about that statement

MRD

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MarineReconDad — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:39:47 GMT

Thank you Tanya. Please feel free to ask me anytime.

Semper Fi

MRD

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Sweet Gypsey — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:29:02 GMT

SIR., GREAT POST THAT IS PURE "ICE COLD KOOL-AID DRINKER, BLEEDING HEART", I AM A BRAT ALL MY LIFE, MY WHOLE FAMILY AIR FORCE, MARINES, ARMY AND MARRIED INTO NAVY(OLDEST SISTER). WHE DAD JOINED IT WAS STILL ARMY, WAS NOT AIR FORCE YET,I WAS AN ON FULOW BABY, DADDY LITTLE ANGEL, BOY COULD I WORK HIM. I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT UNDERSTAND HIS LOVE OF THAT LIFE,AND MY BROTHERS DID ALSO ONE JOINED AND MET HIM IN KOREA, OTHER HAD HEALTH PROBLEMS, AND THEY TURNED ME DOWN FOR VIETNAM AND TO OLD FOR DERSERT SHIELD AND STORM!

DID YOU KNOW WHEN THE ICONS AND NAMED WERE BEING STOLEN? DID YOU KNOW "RETARTEE", HE CHANGED IT TO "RELEVANTMIND"?

HE WAS VERY CLOSE TO ONE NAMED JUDE, HE CALLED HER GYPSEY

SEMFER FI SIR

TANYA

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Sweet Gypsey — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:50:12 GMT

    http://yedda.com/questions/think_WHITE_PRIDE_8623872591511/

QUESTION POSTED BY AMERICAN, ASKED FOR WORD TO GET OUT, PLEASE TAKE SOME TIME AND CLICK ON LINK, CHECK IT OUT

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Sweet Gypsey — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:23:27 GMT

SIR., I LEARNED FROM MY DAD THAT, WITH HIM IT WAS THE LOOK, AND NO ANSWER AND I KNEW NEVER TO ASK THAT QUESTION AGAIN, SO I GUESS I GOT WHAT I WAS NOT LOOKING FOR, DAD WAS VERY OLD SCHOOL MILITARY AND I ALWAYS RESPECTED HIM.

SEMPER FI SIR

TANYA

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Sweet Gypsey — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:48:12 GMT

SIR., I HAVE A SMALL QUOTE THE I FOUND WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH OLD POSTS, IT'S ABOUT 5MONTHS MAYBE LITTLE MORE AGO THAT IT HAD BEEN WRITTEN, HE IS NOT HERE NOW(?), BUT IT FITS IN THE QUESTION AS IF IT HAD BEEN WRIITEN TODAY, I WILL NOT PUT HIS NAME TO IT UNLESS YOU WISH ME TO, I WILL JUST CALL HIM "T", PLEASE TELL ME IF YOU WANT ME TO POST IT HERE, I CAS ALWAYS DELETE.

SEMPER FI SIR

TANYA

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MarineReconDad — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:28:01 GMT

Sure post it!

MRD

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Sweet Gypsey — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:37:03 GMT

This was an answer to an open qestion, by another poster that is not here now, but look at how true the words still are........
I might add that this person is very well respected and has seen this all first hand.
We were built on Capitalism.
You gonna crap your pants when you get Socialized medicine and the line will be so long you gonna sleep in it.
Lived in Third World sh*tholes and Europe.
You want it you got it, coming to America really soon, the government from birth to death do you part.
Revolution, Civil unrest, on the way.
Was written by a True Patriot that loves his country!

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American Patriot — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:25:12 GMT

Obama's health care proposal is, in effect, the repeal of the Medicare program as we know it. The elderly will go from being the group with the most access to free medical care to the one with the least access.    Indeed, the principal impact of the Obama health care program will be to reduce sharply the medical services the elderly can use. No longer will their every medical need be met, their every medication prescribed, their every need to improve their quality of life answered.

It is so ironic that the elderly - who were so vigilant when Bush proposed to change Social Security - are so relaxed about the Obama health care proposals. Bush's Social Security plan, which did not cut their benefits at all, aroused the strongest opposition among the elderly. But Obama's plan, which will totally gut Medicare and replace it with government-managed care and rationing, has elicited little more than a yawn from most senior citizens.

It's time for the elderly to wake up before it is too late!

In our new book, Catastrophe, we explain - in detail and in depth - the consequences the elderly of Canada are feeling from just this kind of program. Limited colonoscopies have led to a 25% higher rate of colon cancer and a ban on the use of the two best chemotherapies are part of the reason why 42% of Canadians with colon cancer die while 31% of Americans, who have access to these two medications, survive the disease.

Overall, the death rate from cancer in Canada is 16% higher than in the United States and the heart disease mortality rate is 6% above ours'.
Under Obama's program, there will be a government health insurance company that gets huge subsidies of tax money. It will compete with private insurance plans. But the subsidies will let it undercut the private plans and drive them out of business, leaving only the government plan - a single payer - in effect.

Today, 800,000 doctors struggle to treat adequately the 250 million Americans who have insurance. Obama will add 50 million more to their caseload with no expansion in the number of doctors or nurses. Indeed, his plan will likely reduce their number by lowering reimbursement rates and imposing bureaucrats above them who will force medical decisions down their throats.   Fewer doctors will have to treat more patients. The inevitable result will be rationing.

And it is the elderly who rationing will most effect. Who should get a knee replacement a 40 year old or a 70 year old? Who should get a new hip, a young person or an old person? Who should have priority in the operating room a seventy year old diabetic who needs bypass surgery or a younger person? Obviously, it is the elderly who will get short shrift under his proposal.

But the interest groups that usually speak up for the elderly, particularly AARP, are in Obama's pocket, hoping to profit from his program by becoming one of its vendors. Just as they backed Bush's prescription drug plan because they anticipating profiting from it, so they are now helping Obama gut the medical care of their constituents.

It is high time that the elderly of America realized what the stakes are in this vital fight to preserve Medicare as we know it and keep medical care open, accessible, and free to those over 65. It is truly a battle for their very lives.

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Sweet Gypsey — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:31:19 GMT

SENIOR DEATH WARRANTS:

The actress Natasha Richardson died after falling skiing in Canada .. It took eight hours to drive her to a hospital.

If Canada had our healthcare she might be alive today.

In the United States , we have medical evacuation helicopters that would have gotten her to the hospital in 30 minutes.

In England anyone over 59 cannot receive heart repairs or stents or bypass because
it is not covered as being too expensive and not needed.

Obama wants to have a healthcare system just like Canada 's and England 's.

I got this today and am sending it on. If Obama's plans in other areas don't scare you, this should!

Please do not let Obama sign senior death warrants!!

Everybody that is on this mailing list knows somebody that is a senior.

Most of you know by now that the Senate version (at least) of the "stimulus" Bill includes provisions for extensive rationing of health care for senior citizens.

The author of this part of the bill, former senator and tax evader, Tom Daschle was credited today by Bloomberg with the following statement:

Bloomberg: Daschle says "health-care reform will not be pain free. Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them."

If this does not sufficiently raise your ire,
just remember that our esteemed Senators and Congressmen have their own healthcare plan that is first dollar or very low co-pay which they are guaranteed the remainder of their lives and are not subject to this new law if it passes.

Please use the power of the Internet to get this message out. Talk it up at the grassroots level.

We have an election coming up in one year and nine months, and we have the ability to address and reverse the dangerous direction the Obama administration and it allies have begun and in the interim, we can make their lives miserable Lets do this!
   If you disagree, do nothing.
We are in a critical time regarding which direction the health care debate is going to go. Make your voice heard. And be armed with the facts. Watch "Sicko" again!
"Sicko" airs on The Movie Channel tonight at 8:00 PM. It's also scheduled to air on The Movie Channel on July 27th at 4:05 PM and on TMC Xtra on August 2nd at 10:45 PM and August 5th at 2:15 AM and 7:30 AM. Click here for showtimes .
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American Patriot — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:34:08 GMT

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Sweet Gypsey — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:45:27 GMT

WHERE ELSE

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Sweet Gypsey — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 04:05:40 GMT

HAVE A GREAT DAY................

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American Patriot — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:53:33 GMT

ty U2

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Sweet Gypsey — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:13:00 GMT

you did see what i had there first right??????????????????????T

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Sweet Gypsey — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 04:00:53 GMT

THERE ARE (5) U -TUPE LINKS BELOW, VERY IMPORTANT ONES, THEY SHOW THAT THERE IS PROOF THAT OBAMA IS NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, PLEASE TAKE THE TIME AND JUST CLICK ON EACH ONE AT A TIME, PLEASE BE SURE YOU HIGHLIGHT FIRST, AND ALSO PUT KEEP AS NEW , YOU CAN RETRIVE FROM OLD FOLDER.

Well here is the link guys from Kenya that states he is not an American citizen........in fact several videos showing it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0riQMj1BvwM&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7BLOcpceRY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QdyLOUHz-A&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bloHSojeLAw&feature=related

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American Patriot — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:32:10 GMT

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American Patriot — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:19:42 GMT

Socialists in Capitalist Clothing

What if you discovered that the vet who takes care of your dog was Michael Vick? Would you think twice about bringing Fido back for his annual shots?

Or what if you discovered that your auto mechanic was a member of Greenpeace? Would you think twice about having him work on your SUV?

Of course you would. Just as, I hope, you would think twice about trusting your retirement savings to someone who secretly despised -- or simply didn't understand -- the free-market capitalist system that makes profits and prosperity possible.

Yet that, believe it or not, is exactly the position millions of Americans are finding themselves in today -- as they discover that Wall Street, far from being a stronghold of "rich Republicans" and "laissez-faire capitalists," is actually dominated by liberal Democrats who support, overwhelmingly, the prosperity-wrecking big-government policies of Barack Obama and his merry band of neo-socialists.

Think I'm exaggerating? Consider the following facts and statistics:

According to an analysis of Federal Election Commission records by the Center for Responsive Politics, the 2008 king obama campaign received $12.6 million from Wall Street "Securities and Investment" firms versus McCain's $7.9 million

The top three corporate employers of donors to king obama, Joe Biden, and Rahm Emanuel were Goldman Sachs, Citigroup, and JPMorgan

Employees of Lehman Brothers alone gave king obama $370,000, compared to about $117,000 to McCain. (No wonder Bush let them go under.)

Since 1998, the financial sector has given a total of $37.6 million to king obama, compared to $32.1 million to McCain. But king obama ran for his first national office only in 2004. So McCain got less from the financial industry in a decade that included two runs for president than king obama did in four years.

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American Patriot — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 19:33:37 GMT

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Sweet Gypsey — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 22:00:07 GMT

A.P. I have had it, you know just were I STAND ON ALL POLITICAL SUJECTS!

YES I did not pyt the header in last night, now that flitty BUUTERFLY MA'DAM, has put an all out attack on me, and is drving me nuts, if you see any of the posts that do not have header let me know so I can fix...........

T. Y.

Tanya

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American Patriot — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 00:48:43 GMT



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BREAKING NEWS KING OBAMA SAYS"WAR ON TERROR IS OVER"
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White House: 'War on terrorism' is over

It's official. The U.S. is no longer engaged in a "war on terrorism." Neither is it fighting "jihadists" or in a "global war."

King Obama's top homeland security and counterterrorism official took all three terms off the table of acceptable words inside the White House during a speech Thursday at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank.

"The President does not describe this as a 'war on terrorism,'" said John Brennan, head of the White House homeland security office, who outlined a "new way of seeing" the fight against terrorism.

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OBAMA DON"T FORGET TO TELL THE TROOPS THAT ARE STILL DYING
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/06/white-house-war-terrorism-over/?feat=home_headlines

RE: America Speaks On Health Care, Why Aren't Obama And The Democrats Listening?

pauline — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:15:44 GMT

Great information American Patriot. Thank You. It seems that the reason Obama and the Dems are not responding to our request for the government to stay out of our health care is because the government has a covert agenda and they intend on fulfilling that agenda regardless of our opposition. An Easy Solution is as follows; I think the American people that want government health care and/or to be included in co-ops should sign up for it and pay for it and Americans that don't want it should keep what they have and pay for it. Also, people in our country illegally and/or if given Amnesty, must pay for their own health care and/or the health care of their children. If they don't pay they and their entire families should be immediately deported and never allowed back into our country again. If supporters of Amnesty think this is too harsh, they can have the option of paying for this population’s health care themselves without tax payer dollars. Saving money; We are forever hearing about how the government wants to save us big bucks, instead of cutting back on care of our elderly or our most vulnerable American populations they can save us money, by not saddling the American people with the burden of paying for the healthcare of illegals/anchors. Not paying for illegals/anchors health care will also bring down hospital costs. In my community, even with tax payer’s assistance, three hospitals closed down due to the care and treatment of an ever rising non-paying illegals/ anchors population. Possible Fearful Results of Freedom Loss; The American people have been threatened, called names, like racist and crazy, as they express their concern about the unsolicited health care plan the government is seeking to impose on most Americans. The elites, like the politicians and their families of course, would be given the best of the best health care. The government thugs have been rude, abusive and invasive to Americans at this level which leads me to wonder what Obama and the Dems will be like, if they manage to get control of our individual health care plans given the way they have behaved toward us for just asking questions. I shudder at the possible reality that we may very well be confronted with as our government hires hit men to suppress our most basic freedom. Then these same political sociopathic criminals will have the power over our life over death……….and given the racist attitudes of Obama and his thugs……….it could result in white and Asian people dying and blacks and illegals being given top preference across the board.

RE: America Speaks On Health Care, Why Aren't Obama And The Democrats Listening?

Sweet Gypsey — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 02:19:17 GMT

"PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO WATCH THIS, VERY IMPORTANT"
                     "THANK YOU"

     "WAS SENT IN BY ONE OF OUR BEST POSTERS"

This is imperative everyone see this!! It was taken off the video
Tapes of the floor of our national legislature.

Please consider getting this out to "everyone"

Http:// www.Youtube.Com/watch_popup?V=g44ncvndlfc

RE: America Speaks On Health Care, Why Aren't Obama And The Democrats Listening?

Sweet Gypsey — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 01:59:09 GMT

" This Was sent in by one of our Best Posters"

Good Morning,

    We spent the weekend at McEntire Airforce Base near Sumpter South Carolina. It was most enlightening to have the time to actually talk to some of the young men in uniform. These young men are bright, dedicated, and very proficient at their job. We were both duly impressed.
I cannot say enough about these young defenders of America.

   The one point I would like to make. When you mention the word OBAMA in the presence of these young Americans, be prepared for the harsh reality that their Commander In Chief is anything BUT that. There is no respect for Obama. At least none that we heard. Very sad. Yet, they will continue to support you and this country with all of their being, with all of their soul, and if necessary their lives. Amazing really.

   When you view this video, and it only takes two minutes, just ask yourself two questions.

    How did America get into this mess with the Left trying to destroy all that we believe in?
Second, How do we get out of this with our Country in tact? We still have three years of this maniacal madness.

    One last thought. It seems that if this continues the only true recipients of all of this thought process, are going to be the people who are here Illegally. What the hell is wrong with that picture. Illegal is illegal is illegal!

            Thank you T.

B
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Subject: CNN NOT FOX

Subj: CNN News, not Fox -- You will not believe this!

It just keeps getting better.. This is unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I KNEW this was going to happen. (That way Obama wasn't lying when he said illegals would not be able to get medical coverage under his ObamaCare plan. His simple fix is to make them all legal first.)

EVERY ONE--PLEASE TAKE TIME TO LISTEN TO THIS--IT TELLS ABOUT THE BILL GOING THRU CONGRESS RIGHT NOW REGARDING IMMIGRATION.

EVEN CNN IS GETTING UPSET ABOUT THIS!!!!!!!!!!
Pass this on after you watch it.   NOTICE THAT THIS IS FROM CNN,  NOT FOX!!!
Click on this link !!!!!!

This from CNN news:   http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/17260182/1610997888/name/ftc-vi26.wmv
If you don't get this the first time click on it again, This is hard to believe
This 2-minute video should be mandatory viewing for every US  citizen. If you have never passed anything on before, pass this on!   Every American should be outraged!

      "Thank you for taking the time"

      "It takes a few min.but worth it"

RE: America Speaks On Health Care, Why Aren't Obama And The Democrats Listening?

Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:01:38 GMT

"TO MY Marco and Nic and other Patriots, Thank you"

Subject: FW: Is this an uprising coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not mincing words as he sees it !!!!

"The Axis of Idiots"
From the Podium:
J. D. Pendry, Retired Sergeant Major, USMC

FROM THE PODIUM
This retired USMC Sgt. Major has his Stuff together.

Jimmy Carter, you are the father of the Islamic Nazi movement. You threw the Shah under the bus, welcomed the Ayatollah home, and then lacked the spine to confront the terrorists when they took our embassy and our people hostage. You're the "runner-in-chief."

Bill Clinton, you played ring around the Lewinsky while the terrorists were at war with us. You got us into a fight with them in Somalia and then you ran from it. Your weak-willed responses to the USS Cole and the First Trade Center Bombing and Our Embassy Bombings emboldened the killers. Each time you failed to respond adequately, they grew bolder, until 9/11/2001.

John Kerry, dishonesty is your most prominent attribute. You lied about American Soldiers in Vietnam. Your military service, like your life, is more
fiction than fact. You've accused our military of terrorizing women and children in Iraq. You called Iraq the wrong war, wrong place, wrong time, and the same words you used to describe Vietnam.. You're a fake! You want to run from Iraq and abandon the Iraqis to murderers just as you did to the Vietnamese.. Iraq, like Vietnam, is another war that you were for, before you were against it.

John Murtha, you said our military was broken.. You said we can't win militarily in Iraq. You accused United States Marines of cold-blooded murder without proof and said we should redeploy to Okinawa. Okinawa, John? And the Democrats call you their military expert! Are you sure you didn't suffer a traumatic brain injury while you were off building your war hero resume? You're a sad, pitiable, corrupt, and washed up old fool. You're not a Marine, sir. You wouldn't amount to a good pimple on a real Marine's ass. You're a phony and a disgrace. Run away, John.

Dick Durbin, you accused our Soldiers at Guantanamo of being Nazis, tenders of Soviet style gulags and as bad as the regime of Pol Pot, who murdered two million of his own people after your party abandoned Southeast Asia to the Communists. Now you want to abandon the Iraqis to the same fate. History was not a good teacher for you, was it? Lord help us! See Dick run.

Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Carl Levine, Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Russ Feingold, Pat Leahy, Barack Obama, Chuck Schumer, the Hollywood Leftist morons, et al, ad nauseam: Every time you stand in front of television cameras and broadcast to the Islamic Nazis that we went to war because our President lied, that the war is wrong and our Soldiers are torturers, that we should leave Iraq, you give the Islamic butchers - the same ones that tortured and mutilated American Soldiers - cause to think that we'll run away again, and all they have to do is hang on a little longer. It is inevitable that we, the infidels, will have to defeat the Islamic jihadists. Better to do it now on their turf, than later on ours after they have gained both strength and momentum.

American news media, the New York Times particularly: Each time you publish stories about national defense secrets and our intelligence gathering methods, you become one united with the sub-human pieces of camel dung that torture and mutilate the bodies of American Soldiers. You can't strike up the courage to publish cartoons, but you can help Al Qaeda destroy my country. Actually, you are more dangerous to us than Al Qaeda is. Think about that each time you face Mecca to admire your Pulitzer..

You are America's 'AXIS OF IDIOTS.' Your Collective Stupidity will destroy us. Self-serving politics and terrorist-abetting news scoops are more important to you than our national security or the lives of innocent civilians and Soldiers. It bothers you that defending ourselves gets in the way of your elitist sport of politics and your ignorant editorializing. There is as much blood on your hands as is on the hands of murdering terrorists. Don't ever doubt that. Your frolics will only serve to extend this war as they extended Vietnam. If you want our Soldiers home as you claim, knock off the crap and try supporting your country ahead of supporting your silly political aims and aiding our enemies.

Yes, I'm questioning your patriotism. Your loyalty ends with self. I'm also questioning why you're stealing air that decent Americans could be breathing. You don't deserve the protection of our men and women in uniform. You need to run away from this war, this country. Leave the war to the people who have the will to see it through and the country to people who are willing to defend it.

Our country has two enemies: Those who want to destroy us from the outside and those who attempt it from within.

Semper Fi,
J. D. Pendry - Sergeant Major, USMC, Retired

This is a savvy man. He has nailed it down pretty good. Too bad it won't do any good. There won't be 1 in 10 that receive it who will forward it.

RE: America Speaks On Health Care, Why Aren't Obama And The Democrats Listening?

Sweet Gypsey — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:54:51 GMT

"Today This is What he Slipped into My E-Mail"
     "Know it is A Hard Day for A lot of Us"
Subject: Debt Power and Inflation

Robert,

Let me say thanks for all that you are doing at GETLIBERTY.ORG. I have been following your progress for months now, and it is stellar to say the least. However, there is one very important component that I think you need to add to your ever growing list. I am the first to admit that I know enough about politics and monetary policy to be dangerous. However, there are certain actions that I think even an idiot like me can see, yet have no explanation for. I take that back, the explanation is as plain as the nose on my face, and once explored goes back to the dawn of modern times. Trade, greed, and mans universal want of material things. It all boils down to MONEY!
No, this is not a liberal tirade against the sins of the free market. Just the opposite, as I believe that the free market is what will get us out of the current financial crisis. That is, if it is allowed to. Herein lies the problem. IF IT IS ALLOWED TO??

I know, what the hell am I talking about?

I am talking about the actions of our large financial institutions, and their current policies in the name of profits.

The actions that include receiving huge chunks of capital in the name of Stimulus, TARP, Economic Recovery Act, or whatever else the various governmental agencies can give a name too, then proceed to advance funds in the name of. Instead of loaning these funds back to the citizens, small business's, or farmers that gave them the funds via taxes/government, have taken the money's and invested in commodities and various stock markets around the world. Thus screwing the people. Again.
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My god what is wrong with this picture?

The Americans who have diligently paid their taxes, to have their hard earned dollars routed to the banks, who then refuse to make loans to these same people with their OWN money!

You see Robert, I was asking myself some very basic questions this weekend. Questions that didn't make sense.
How is it that Gold and Oil are rising, when the dollar is falling off a cliff. That the stock market is rising, yet jobs are being lost in record numbers. Finally, a national debt that is heading us into oblivion, not to mention a manufacturing base that has stalled to say the least. (Which I believe is contrary to what Joe Biden is saying)

The answer should have been clear to me, but I didn't pick up on it until I heard an economist state the obvious.
The banks are simply creating yet another financial bubble in the stock market by diverting OUR funds from us to other more lucrative avenues. My guess is they will not only make huge sums on the rise of the market, but also massive amounts on the fall. Selling short is still legal right??

In short, no pun intended, it is this new "ARTIFICIAL BUBBLE", that we need to bring into our discussions, along with all of the rest. We all know, or should know, that massive inflation is the Feds answer to our crippling debt. It is right around the corner. My kids will soon understand this new horror. The horror of inflation and all that it implies. Also, when this next bubble burst we need to ask ourselves several simple questions, "What is Americas landscape going to look like?" How bad is this potential? More importantly, what is the long term plan of those who are operating and directing these actions? Finally, how do we combat it? We know that the cause and effect is in the name of profit, or at least it use to be. Or, should we be asking this last question, "Is it possible that the cause and effect could be in the name of power and domination for the demise of all that we hold sacred?" It is possible you know. America is not infallible. No country is.

I guess the bottom line is this. As we are fighting what I maintain is "ALL OF THE ABOVE", this situation needs to be thrust into the mix. This final straw, in my opinion, has the potential to break all of our backs, or at a minimum, crack a few vertebrae. Let me state for the record, "I don't want to see the surgeon!"

Once again, thanks for all that you are doing, and hopefully this message has given you something else to think about. I think if we examine where we are, we may come to this conclusion. We are where we are simply as a result of the same power brokers performing various actions with the means to their own ends. That they are doing it over and over by using different actions, but achieving the same results. If we are going to get back to free markets, I think that we need to free the market?

Keep the faith my friend, we are going to need it if this levy breaks.

B.