Okay discern this one guys sent to me from Obama

Whirlwindflower — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:22:33 GMT

Good Morning,

Yesterday, Judge Sonia Sotomayor made her opening statement to the Senate Judiciary Committee and moved another step closer to taking a seat on the United States Supreme Court. In case you missed it, watch the video of her opening statement here:

As President, there are few responsibilities more serious or consequential than the naming of a Supreme Court Justice, so I want to take this opportunity to tell you about the qualifications and character that informed my decision to nominate Judge Sotomayor.

Judge Sotomayor's brilliant legal mind is complemented by the practical lessons that can only be learned by applying the law to real world situations.

In the coming days, the hearings will cover an incredible body of work from a judge who has more experience on the federal bench than any incoming Supreme Court Justice in the last 100 years. Judge Sotomayor's professional background spans our judicial system — from her time as a big-city prosecutor and a corporate litigator, to her work as a federal trial judge on the U.S. District Court, and an appellate judge on the Second Circuit Court of Appeals.

And then there is Judge Sotomayor's incredible personal story. She grew up in a housing project in the South Bronx — her parents coming to New York from Puerto Rico during the Second World War. At the age of nine, she lost her father, and her mother worked six days a week just to put food on the table. It takes a certain resilience and determination to rise up out of such circumstances, focus, work hard and achieve the American dream.

This character shined through in yesterday's opening statement: Watch the video.

In Judge Sotomayor, our nation will have a Justice who will never forget her humble beginnings, will always apply the rule of law, and will be a protector of the Constitution that made her American dream and the dreams of millions of others possible. As she said so clearly yesterday, Judge Sotomayor's decisions on the bench "have been made not to serve the interests of any one litigant, but always to serve the larger interest of impartial justice."

In anticipation of today's first round of questioning, I hope you'll share this email widely, because Judge Sotomayor's confirmation is something that affects every American. It's important for these hearings to be about Judge Sotomayor's own record and her capacity for the job — not any political back and forth that some in Washington may use to distract you. What members of the Judiciary Committee, and the American people, will see today is a sharp and fearless jurist who does not let powerful interests bully her into breaking from the rule of law.

Thank you,
Barack Obama

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tinkerthinker — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:32:24 GMT

Well, my guess as to why Obama would send something out like this is that he must have seen some polls that were bad for her/him.

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Whirlwindflower — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:54:46 GMT

She is pro-abortion........and they have already reversed one of her discrimination cases.........need to figure out why he would choose her..........he does not choose anyone unless they back him up...............time will tell.........

The reason I get these letters is I wrote a letter of protest over something........and now they send me all their propaganda. Di

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tinkerthinker — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:18:53 GMT

She made that comment--that laws are made by the appellate court....

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R.A. Shipman — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:37:18 GMT

To be honest there are no perfect candidates for the job. Judge Sonia Sotomayor, was originally appointed by George H. W. Bush to her first Federal seat and now because she is a nominee from a Democrat all things can be found wrong with her. As Rush said on his radio show, she is catholic and therefore by her religion be opposed to abortion and to my knowledge has avoided that question on many occasions. We shall just have to see how she does before the Judicial Committee if the media will keep us honestly informed.

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Rocmike3 — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:04:09 GMT

Why would it be difficult to discern the deceit in this false move? All we need to know is the actual character of Obama and his followers! I predicted this insane move last September! Scroll back, read it, and weep!

Obamites are aggressive, dangerous, disloyal paranoids: if it is the right thing to do, they will approach it and at the last critical juncture to their decision, they will do something else. Anything else. They think it makes them "less predictable therefore safer."

WRONG!

Deviating randomly from proper action only causes horrifying disaster, which clearly and competently explains all their actions. It is a deliberate act of subversion and clearly decided utter disloyalty. Expect Obama bin Laden to choose someone with his disloyal "hidden agenda." As predicted last September, he has done so.

The result is, of course, further disloyalty, poorly considered decisions that directly affect you and me, all done out of Obamite paranoid hysteria.

Obamites rally angrily to Obama because Obama is crass, disloyal, and low down enough to manipulate these fools out of self-righteous arrogance.

I predicted this move last September. Read it and weep.

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Jerry — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:09:48 GMT

I haven't really heard a question here. Was there a direct question in all of this? If you're asking me about this woman's qualifications to be on the Supreme Court,my honest answer is "I Don't know".

There is only one issue that would cause me to take a NEGATIVE stance with regard to her sitting on the Supreme Court, and that is the issue of ABORTION. I have heard that she is a Catholic, and as such, she should be following a Higher court than even the Supreme Court. She should be Pro-life. If she is pro-abortion, she must have daily internal strife regarding this position, for she is going against the very basic tenets of her Catholic upbringing.

Should she sit on the Supreme Court? I don't know. I am not qualified to answer this question. Perhaps Supreme Court appointments should not be appointed, but elected by the PEOPLE. Then, I would feel qualified to make a judgement by ballot.

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Whirlwindflower — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:19:57 GMT

Main Entry: discern di-!surn di-!zurn

Pronunciation: \ di-?s?rn, -?z?rn \

Function: verb

Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French discerner, from Latin discernere to separate, distinguish between, from dis- apart + cernere to sift - More at - dis-, certain

Date: 14th century

Results
transitive verb 14th century 1 a. 1 a to detect with the eyes - discerned a figure approaching through the fog b. b to detect with senses other than vision - discerned a strange odor
2. 2 to recognize or identify as separate and distinct : discriminate - discern right from wrong
3. 3 to come to know or recognize mentally - unable to discern his motives intransitive verb intransitive verb to see or understand the difference

Related Forms
1. dis·cern·er noun 2. dis·cern·ible also dis·cern·able di-!sur-nu-bul \ -?s?r-n?-b?l, -?z?r- \ adjective 3. dis·cern·iblydi-!surn-u-blE \ -bl? \ adverb

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richard — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:44:58 GMT

and the Lord said: come ye out from among them; Be a nation unto yourself! so what am I saying, we became a nation unto ourselves before but the enemy has entered in, in the breach of our spirit, for we have become what we said we would never be and made our laws according, and now the eyes of our nation have gone awhoring with the worldly lust of our enemys. and now Islams dreams are becoming this nations dreams; ten will make a thousand flee,we need to return to God and be the ten that will make a thousand flee. Obama is setting up His tents to make the remenent flee. Now let them do the decerning for we have the strong arm of the Lord that goes in our lead. whirwindflower,because others read your stuff,this might shake the matt that they lay on.

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Whirlwindflower — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:50:35 GMT

Richard,

:)good to see you, felt like I was fighting the battle by myself. I know what is happening, but I want to save the world......and I cannot........want to save my country but I cannot. Di

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Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:46:08 GMT

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Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:54:01 GMT

MUSLIMS DO NOT ABORT

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Lido — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 02:50:44 GMT

Everyone should see the video you posted, Tanya.

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richard — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:25:40 GMT

Musilums do not abort! your right they just kill the would be mother,

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Whirlwindflower — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:19:08 GMT

Richard,

Look above at the video........it is about muslims growing rapidly in population throughout the world.....she was not saying muslims are good............just that they plan to take over the world by being the most to reproduce.......Di

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Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:38:01 GMT

Hi Richard, that was the answer I was going to give to you also and Di got you first, they also kill their own children, don't care who they get when you're a terrorist, and that is just what is being produced by the numbers, check out the one in my profile I HAVE A PUT UP YOU BOOTS MUSIC question, GHOST OF TENN ERNIE FORD, think it's the last one on it, may be able to us that one too............................................

Tanya

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Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:49:17 GMT

Lido if we have a few that can check out sites that are safe to post this on, and you see that I have not yet post me from there, just not the highly politilal ones thats were you get more fighting and do I need say more.......

Tanya

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Whirlwindflower — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:54:59 GMT

Tanya,

The Lord is working with us...........check this out.......we basically have no president with authority until he produces a legitimate birth certificate:

BORN IN THE USA?
Bombshell: Orders revoked for soldier challenging prez
Major victory for Army warrior questioning Obama's birthplace
Posted: July 14, 2009
9:53 pm Eastern

By Chelsea Schilling and Joe Kovacs
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

Dr. Orly Taitz

A U.S. Army Reserve major from Florida scheduled to report for deployment to Afghanistan within days has had his military orders revoked after arguing he should not be required to serve under a president who has not proven his eligibility for office.
His attorney, Orly Taitz, confirmed to WND the military has rescinded his impending deployment orders.
"We won! We won before we even arrived," she said with excitement. "It means that the military has nothing to show for Obama. It means that the military has directly responded by saying Obama is illegitimate – and they cannot fight it. Therefore, they are revoking the order!"
She continued, "They just said, 'Order revoked.' No explanation. No reasons – just revoked."
A hearing on the questions raised by Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook, an engineer who told WND he wants to serve his country in Afghanistan, was scheduled for July 16 at 9:30 a.m.
Join the petition campaign to make President Obama reveal his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate!
"As an officer in the armed forces of the United States, it is [my] duty to gain clarification on any order we may believe illegal. With that said, if President Obama is found not to be a 'natural-born citizen,' he is not eligible to be commander-in-chief," he told WND only hours after the case was filed.
"[Then] any order coming out of the presidency or his chain of command is illegal. Should I deploy, I would essentially be following an illegal [order]. If I happened to be captured by the enemy in a foreign land, I would not be privy to the Geneva Convention protections," he said.
The order for the hearing in the federal court for the Middle District of Georgia from U.S. District Judge Clay D. Land said the hearing on the request for a temporary restraining order would be held Thursday.
Want to turn up the pressure to learn the facts? Get your signs and postcards asking for the president's birth certificate documentation here.
Cook said without a legitimate president as commander-in-chief, members of the U.S. military in overseas actions could be determined to be "war criminals and subject to prosecution."
He said the vast array of information about Obama that is not available to the public confirms to him "something is amiss."
"That and the fact the individual who is occupying the White House has not been entirely truthful with anybody," he said. "Every time anyone has made an inquiry, it has been either cast aside, it has been maligned, it has been laughed at or just dismissed summarily without further investigation.
"You know what. It would be so simple to solve. Just produce the long-form document, certificate of live birth," he said.
Cook said he was scheduled to report for duty tomorrow, on July 15, to deploy to Afghanistan as part of President Obama's plan to increase pressure of insurgent forces there.
He told WND he would be prepared for a backlash against him as a military officer, since members of the military swear to uphold and follow their orders. However, he noted that following an illegal order would be just as bad as failing to follow a legal order.
Before news of the orders being revoked were reported, MSNBC anchor Keith Olbermann tonight called Cook a "jackass" and Taitz a "conwoman," as he labeled both of them the "worst persons in the world." He flayed the soldier as "an embarrassment to all those who have served without cowardice."
Named as defendants in the case are Col. Wanda Good, Col. Thomas Macdonald, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Obama, described as "de facto president of the United States."

According to the court filing, Cook affirmed when he joined the military, he took the following oath: "I, Stefan Frederick Cook, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the president of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to the regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
According to the claim, "Plaintiff submits that it is implicit though not expressly stated that an officer is and should be subject to court-martial, because he will be derelict in the performance of his duties, if he does not inquire as to the lawfulness, the legality, the legitimacy of the orders which he has received, whether those orders are specific or general."
The military courts offer no option for raising the question, so he turned to civilian courts to consider "a question of paramount constitutional and legal importance: the validity of the chain of command under a president whose election, eligibility, and constitutional status appear open to serious question."
"Barack Hussein Obama, in order to prove his constitutional eligibility to serve as president, basically needs only produce a single unique historical document for the Plaintiff’s inspection and authentication: namely, the 'long-form' birth certificate which will confirm whether Barack Hussein Obama was in fact born to parents who were both citizens of the United States in Honolulu, Hawaii, in or about 1961," explains the complaint.
Taitz said she will attend the hearing to amend the temporary restraining order to an injunction because more members of the military have joined the cause.
"We are going to be asking for release of Obama's records because now this completely undermines the military. It revoked this order, but it can come up with another order tomorrow. It can come up with orders for other people," she said. "Am I going to be flying around the country 1,000 times and paying the fees every time they issue an order?"
Taitz said the issue "must be resolved immediately," and she will continue working to ensure Obama proves he is eligible for office.
"We're going to be asking the judge to issue an order for Obama to provide his vital records to show he is legitimately president," she said. "We're going to say, we have orders every day, and we'll have revocations every day. This issue has to be decided."
She said there cannot be any harm to the president if he is legitimately holding office.
"If he is legitimate, then his vital records will prove it," Taitz said. "If he is illegitimate, then he should not have been there in the first place."
Asked what this decision means for every other serviceman who objects to deployment under a president who has not proven he is eligible for office, Taitz responded:
"Now, we can have each and every member of the military – each and every enlistee and officer – file something similar saying 'I will not take orders until Obama is legitimately vetted.'"
Multiple questions have been raised about what that would mean to the 2008 election, to the orders and laws Obama has signed and other issues, including whether he then is a valid commander-in-chief of the military.
The mystery letter
The mystery letter

Press Secretary Robert Gibbs refused to confirm the authenticity of the alleged Jan. 24, 2009, letter from President Obama to his purported place of birth, Kapi'olani Medical Center. His remarks begin at the 55:27 mark of the press briefing. (Click photo to view)

Obama has maintained he was born in Hawaii, and at least one hospital, Honolulu's Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children, claims it received a letter from the president declaring his birth there.
As WND reported, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs refused to confirm that the letter which was used by the hospital to solicit donations is, in fact, a real correspondence.
When WND exposed doubts about the authenticity of the letter because it was created with HTML computer code and had no presidential or White House seal, the hospital which for nearly six months proudly declared Obama was born at its facility commenced an active cover-up, hiding that White House letter from its original webpage and refusing to confirm such a letter actually exists.
WND also reported that just within the last week, at least two reports have cited Obama's birth in Kenya. Wikipedia also was found to have been reporting on Obama's birth in Kenya, before a series of scrubs placed his birth in Honolulu.
And that came on the heels of several online information sites changing the president's supposed birthplace from one hospital in Hawaii to another, after WND broke the news of the letter said to be from the White House.

Barack Obama states in this purported letter from him on what appears to be White House stationery that he was born at the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu. The letter was posted by the medical center for nearly six months on its website and used for fundraising before electronically hidden once WND disclosed it was not an actual paper letter, but merely HTML coding. The hospital and White House now refuse to confirm that a real document even exists.

The question over Obama's eligibility now also is being raised on billboards nationwide.

"Where's The Birth Certificate?" billboard in Pennsylvania
The billboard campaign follows an ongoing petition campaign launched several months ago by WND Editor and Chief Executive Officer Joseph Farah.
The billboards are intended to raise public awareness of the fact that Obama has never released the standard "long-form" birth certificate that would show which hospital he was born in, the attending physician and establish that he truly was born in Hawaii, as his autobiography maintains.
Send a contribution to support the national billboard campaign that asks a simple question: "Where's the birth certificate?"
WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."
Some of the lawsuits question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama's American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.
Other challenges have focused on Obama's citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.
Complicating the situation is Obama's decision to spend sums estimated in the hundreds of thousands of dollars to avoid releasing a state birth certificate that would put to rest all of the questions.
The "Certification of Live Birth" posted online and widely touted as "Obama's birth certificate" does not in any way prove he was born in Hawaii, since the same "short-form" document is easily obtainable for children not born in Hawaii. The true "long-form" birth certificate – which includes information such as the name of the birth hospital and attending physician – is the only document that can prove Obama was born in Hawaii, but to date he has not permitted its release for public or press scrutiny.
Oddly, though congressional hearings were held to determine whether Sen. John McCain was constitutionally eligible to be president as a "natural born citizen," no controlling legal authority ever sought to verify Obama's claim to a Hawaiian birth.
Although Obama officials have told WND all such allegations are "garbage," here is a partial listing and status update for some of the cases over Obama's eligibility:

New Jersey attorney Mario Apuzzo has filed a case on behalf of Charles Kerchner and others alleging Congress didn't properly ascertain that Obama is qualified to hold the office of president.

Pennsylvania Democrat Philip Berg has three cases pending, including Berg vs. Obama in the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, a separate Berg vs. Obama case alleging he wasn't qualified even to be U.S. senator and Hollister vs. Soetoro a/k/a Obama, (now dismissed) brought on behalf of a retired military member who could be facing recall to active duty by Obama.

Leo Donofrio of New Jersey filed a lawsuit claiming Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court but denied a full hearing.

Cort Wrotnowski filed suit against Connecticut's secretary of state, making a similar argument to Donofrio. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court, but was denied a full hearing.

Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes headlines a list of people filing a suit in California, in a case handled by the United States Justice Foundation, that asks the secretary of state to refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office. The case is pending, and lawyers are seeking the public's support.

Chicago lawyer Andy Martin sought legal action requiring Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle to release Obama's vital statistics record. The case was dismissed by Hawaii Circuit Court Judge Bert Ayabe.

Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan sought a temporary restraining order to stop the Electoral College vote in North Carolina until Barack Obama's eligibility could be confirmed, alleging doubt about Obama's citizenship. His case was denied.

In Ohio, David M. Neal sued to force the secretary of state to request documents from the Federal Elections Commission, the Democratic National Committee, the Ohio Democratic Party and Obama to show the presidential candidate was born in Hawaii. The case was denied.

Also in Ohio, there was the Greenberg v. Brunner case which ended when the judge threatened to assess all case costs against the plaintiff.

In Washington state, Steven Marquis sued the secretary of state seeking a determination on Obama's citizenship. The case was denied.

In Georgia, Rev. Tom Terry asked the state Supreme Court to authenticate Obama's birth certificate. His request for an injunction against Georgia's secretary of state was denied by Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter.

California attorney Orly Taitz has brought a case, Lightfoot vs. Bowen, on behalf of Gail Lightfoot, the vice presidential candidate on the ballot with Ron Paul, four electors and two registered voters. She also has brought forward several other cases and has conducted several public campaigns to generate awareness of the issue.

In Texas, Darrel Hunter vs. Obama later was dismissed.

In Ohio, Gordon Stamper vs. U.S. later was dismissed.

In Texas, Brockhausen vs. Andrade.

In Washington, L. Charles Cohen vs. Obama.

In Hawaii, Keyes vs. Lingle, dismissed.

In addition, other cases cited on the RightSideofLife blog as raising questions about Obama's eligibility include:

In Texas, Darrel Hunter vs. Obama later was dismissed.

In Ohio, Gordon Stamper vs. U.S. later was dismissed.

In Texas, Brockhausen vs. Andrade.

In Washington, L. Charles Cohen vs. Obama.

WND has reported that among the documentation not yet available for Obama includes his kindergarten records, his Punahou school records, his Occidental College records, his Columbia University records, his Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School records, his Harvard Law Review articles, his scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, his passport, his medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

Note: Members of the news media wishing to interview Chelsea Schilling, Joe Kovacs, Joseph Farah, Jerome Corsi, Les Kinsolving or Bob Unruh on this issue, please contact WND.

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richard — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:06:32 GMT

I was not coming against you tanya,but adding a thpouight of truth to it for certain readers to read! namely the Ms.

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Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:13:43 GMT

I know that , got the whole thing right off was really also looking to for something to add like that but don't forget have to thread easy in ways, my backside has a wanted sign on it....................T

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richard — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:18:42 GMT

Di, and tanya I was not coming against tanya ,I was just adding to her post in a way for certain Ms that Might be reading her post and for the recored,not for you Ms is Muslims!

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richard — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:31:14 GMT

Tanya, Jesus had a wanted sign on His back side as do we all in these times, But He [Jesus] paid the price for us with His blood and with His Blood we are covered from head to toe and from front to back!{ He told peter just before peter lopped off the ear of the guard,[the time has come when you must sell your cloths and buy swords,and peter said in reply I have one Lord and Jesus said : it is enough for right now]}!but the time has come to do so. so go get EM!!

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Whirlwindflower — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:38:54 GMT

Richard and Tanya,

Got the devils demons coming after me in full force......so must be doing right........lol.........as you two are and they will attack you also.........but they have no power over the Lord.....their time is very very short...........they are getting scared.

The Lord said that he is waking the people of America up so that many will see the light before it is too late. Di

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Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:55:45 GMT

Richard I kinda think that Di is worried that we may get into mischief, but it will be worth it, we just have to keep her safe.

Why is it if we are doing the right thing we are the bad ones. We will get this done.

Tanya

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Whirlwindflower — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:00:30 GMT

Tanya,

Not worried about you or Richard.......you have the armor of the Lord and there is no greater protection.......:) Di

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richard — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:12:00 GMT

Tanya to your question why are we always the bad guy's: it is because satan hates the truth and so does His apostle Obama who also speaks with forked tongue! Bush declared war against Evil; He just did not know where the battle was taking place!or what kind of troops to send! and here we are:

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Rocmike3 — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:19:58 GMT

No rational person ever bought Obama's glib speeches -- and now, he appears to be struggling with a job for which he is unfit.

The same was true of "Cowardly Lion" Clinton and "Scarecrow" Carter. Will anyone besides Toto be up to the Wicked Witch of the East -- the ones in no certain place in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and a few more moving from bunker to bunker near Pongyang?

To completely ruin the "Wizard of Oz" metaphor, Dorothy had best consult Professor Marvel about ways to get back to Kansas. Believe me, there really is a twister.

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Rocmike3 — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:35:54 GMT

Richard, there is no such thing as an "ex" Marine. We merely get TAD duty to civilian life, awaiting orders!

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Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:36:43 GMT

Di do you know how easy it is to get fake I. D. in NEW YORK CITY, still after 9/11 ,yes the price is now higher but anything can be bought for the right amount, and the first time that the TOWERS were hit if I remember a van in the garage blew, my husband that passed away was in drywall, he needed a pass to get to the floors, you would think that when job was done that it would be taken away, yes did have a pictuce, very blurry no dates or other personal information, I could have used it, STILL HAVE IT!!!

Di this man and his minion, he could show me his pink dotted underwear by CHANAL and I would still check to see if it was real or a knockoff.

HE IS WHAT HE IS AND WE KNOW THAT, PROOF ALL HE CAN SHOW!

PEOPLE HAVE TO OPEN THEIR EYES AND STOP DRINKING THAT POISON!

Tanya

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Whirlwindflower — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:37:38 GMT

Rocmike,

Yes you are part of the troops, Patriot, etc. are also fighting the battle for our Land America.......Thanks,for all your inputs from all of you has helped us to understand how we can fight back for our country........I thank you all........Di

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Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:42:53 GMT

SEMPER FI

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Tanya

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richard — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:46:05 GMT

I'm Glad you know there is no ex. to anything thats true american,but this battle requires a different kind of ammo! are you locked and loaded??

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Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:59:22 GMT

NEVER EX, ALWAYS ,RIGHT ROCMIKE3

Semper Fi

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

just love to do that, had GREAT teacher, and you did not stop by my music and put your boots up for TROOPS AND VETS in my profile page, someone played with other one and took out lot os music , but will replace..........

Tanya

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Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:04:15 GMT

You take a breather, have like 4 or 5 posts all at one time and thats the ones that I have to use brain for that does not always work right (lol) think I think I forgot what it looks like outside...........

T

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richard — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:30:14 GMT

was'nt me [R]

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Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:40:22 GMT

Richard we are all going to band together at this point, you see the way our TROOPS and VETS want no part of him, I go and look and talk to them, Rocmike3 knows the teachers that I have had, but in another time, one that had great repect for him and protected me. It makes no difference with the country now, you have from all states, all races, all religions, that are of the same mind as we are. We will win!!!

Tanya

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Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:42:50 GMT

Tanya later

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Rocmike3 — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:28:16 GMT

Tanya, the Madness of November was an absolute first in American history. Anticipating that he would be discovered for the fraud that Obama is, Hillary Rodham Hussein claimed that McCain was not an American because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone, to military parents.

Hypocritical Obamites fail to notice that their grasp of politics and geography are just a little off: The Canal Zone was an American Territory at the time.

But Obamites are such hypocrites that they forged a Hawaiian birth certificate for their god Obama, which notably has never been signed. It is therefore spurious.

Since the whole mess reeks of criminal conspiracy, I'd say it is time for a real "Change."

That change will be to place a lawful government in power, not that corrupt Obamite gang of criminals.

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richard — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:51:36 GMT

Tanya, I had a son in the air force, and when I would drop by the base i would ask them what did they think of clinton and it was always a BIG thumbs down ! my son opted to leave the air force because He could not stand that bubble butt president and never did I. so if the services didnt like clinton. they definatly do not like the muslim walking anal cavity Oyo mo bo a!!

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Whirlwindflower — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:54:23 GMT

Tanya,

I just don't understand how someone that represents our country as President can get away without showing us his legal right by birth to be our President.........lets put it this way.....if he is legal why would he not comply? So not complying is an admission of guilt. But is our whole system so corrupt that he can get away with this.

What about 20 yrs from now(course we don't have to worry because the Lord will reign)some terrorist could come into our country and put a fake birth certificate or none at all and run for President.

How?   To drive a car we have to have a license......but he can drive the country without proof of citizenship? How brain washed some are that thought they wanted change....They certainly have it...........from freedom to socialism........

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Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:16:28 GMT

Rocmike3,   Marine, thats in FEB O9, that was friends, read all old posts and copied all old sites, he had liked you.

Tanya

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richard — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:42:30 GMT

Nice going rocmike:, did you notice that His showing of the fake birthcertificate was lasser printed? nothing like that in the 60's This is as you know [but for other eyes] is a government for the people and by the people and of the people; so what am I saying? this, ol' numb nuts of a fake president has done overloaded his hinder parts; so some one with enough money to take the church state back up before the courts would probally win the issue back to prayer in school and god in all locations as Obama made the statement that Gm. was owned by the people of the us. so as that goes so then are all the schools owned by the people and all the state bldgs. and all the government offices and places of american interest and all the military and on and on. so that means their laws regarding the prayer and evey thing else concerning our God are void and non-applicable to anything! the Government is just a body of men that are our represenitives not our tour guides!there is no state owner ship or government ownerships of anything according to Obamas lying lips. so now is the time to take Him for his words and sink the lot of them.

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Whirlwindflower — Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:11:43 GMT

I just don't understand how someone that represents our country as President can get away without showing us his legal right by birth to be our President.........lets put it this way.....if he is legal why would he not comply? So not complying is an admission of guilt. But is our whole system so corrupt that he can get away with this?

What about 20 yrs from now(course we don't have to worry because the Lord will reign)some terrorist could come into our country and put a fake birth certificate or none at all and run for President.

How?   To drive a car we have to have a license......but he can drive the country without proof of citizenship? How brain washed some are that thought they wanted change....They certainly have it...........from freedom to socialism........

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Rocmike3 — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:51:47 GMT

Richard, Whirlwind, know that all loyal Americans stand with you, particularly the black ones.

I, for one black man, was actually born in America so my heart is with my homeland. Obama bin Laden was not. Were you also aware that Chicago has brought our nation its most dangerous criminals -- Bugs Moran, Frank Nitti, Al Capone, etc.

Even our most stubborn Obamites have begun to wonder, "Why did I vote with madman Obama?"

The answer is as close as your TV set: subliminal advertising. They blink an ultrashort message, that only your subconscious can process, and soon enough, you begin to think that is the case -- whatever riduculous case is presented.

That was how Hitler got his message of German racist supremacy to the German people (through paid newsreels -- one frame out of 30) and that is how Obama bin Laden got their votes.

Fraud is fraud, and only criminals take part in fraud.

Unfortunately, this act of fraud amounts to treason.

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Sweet Gypsey — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:26:46 GMT

    Richard, Clinton closed just about every base that we had been stationed at,he is just was lax and lied as this one is. The first time I saw him, I truly felt that he was the anti-Christ, and told my mom, she had worked for Department of Defense under Vice-President Dick Cheney when he was in charge of DOD, left when Clinton came in, was not going to work for that guy and a few other sweet words, like Di she is not my birth mother but I have taken her as so and call her mom, my father met her when stationed in Grandveiw Mo. outside Kanas City, but she's a TEXAS lady, still have lots a family really all over lot down south.

   People still don't see the damage that clinton did, how he screwed up our military our bases. One of my best is when you hear a kid tell you that is not having SEX, I can't even talk about him with out getting sick to my stomach!!!

    The computer went down real bad, I grabbed what I had and put it on an e-mail to hold and just hoped that I was not going to loss all. Still have to check, but that is what I am is an AIR FORCE BRAT, most of the family were and we have MARINES, ARMY did have NAVY, the works!!!

     Tanya

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Sweet Gypsey — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:32:12 GMT

Di you really want to hear something sick about how easy it is to get a drivers license and where the terrorists got theirs from, I think I had told that my son was killed , he had just turned 21 years old that was back in 1992 in March, but I an very close to the girl that he went with for 7 years and made her go on with her life go back to church the works, she's like a daughter to me, anyway the guy she married was a close friend of my sons' and I was the only one at the time that gave my blessings and pushed the rest of family. But his sister got married around the same time to a guy she had gone with for awhile, they are split now, thank GOD, it turns out that he had no drivers license so he bought one out of state...........the same people that the terrorists got all their papers from, oh did I mention that he is from India, and the family has threaten her life a few times as has he did, but he is little nervous around me, never knows what I am able to do.

                                   Tanya

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Whirlwindflower — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:37:17 GMT

Yes knew that mafia started and grew out of Chicago..and they have their resorts in an exclusive area outside New York. Met a guy in the mafia years ago and took forever to get rid of him........lol........met a girl while country line dancing here years ago that was the daughter of a mafia man......

Whenever I think of Obama it is the things he is doing I abhor.   I know that Tippy thinks it is the color I object to, but it is not.....I fostered two little black babies many years ago. The last one was about 15 months old and cried and held his arms out to me, I almost had a nervous breakdown, because in his eyes I was his mommy and they were taking him away. We only had him about a couple months while his parents supposedly worked. His name was Steven and he did not know how to respond to us and everyone thought he was retarded.......soon he would just start laughing with joy when we walked into the room. He was suffering from lack of love. I never took in another child it just about killed me.

Thanks for your support. I love my country, and my heart bleeds for it and what Obama and bilderberg have brought it to. Yes I know that it started long ago, but at least we had presidents that were born here and loved our country even if they let others rule them.

If we let this continue, anyone can come into this country and claim they are a citizen without showing proof and become president. We have to stop this now. Di

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Whirlwindflower — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:42:29 GMT

Yes, working in and around law enforcement for years.......saw many. Even had some that had sandpapered their fingertips so as not to be caught by their fingerprints. Di

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Sweet Gypsey — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:44:48 GMT

Rocmike3 I remember and if you want I can pull up the post that Relevantmind, spoke very highly of you, and told me that to make sure you were alright, and I did watch you from afar, did not know how to come to you, glad that we did now.

Semper Fi Sir

Tanya

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Sweet Gypsey — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:51:15 GMT

It just blows you away, some of this stuff that can be gotten away with, just amazing!............T

RE: Okay discern this one guys sent to me from Obama

richard — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 04:38:06 GMT

Your right on that for sure He, clinton gave to china our navel shipyards He closed to china and began the borrow money from china bit,and let the panama cannel go back to panama, when he had the power to stop the Jimmy carter give away! It's Funny; have you ever noticed that the clintons and the Obamas could be mistaken for the Lees?[I think the mens first name would have matched that of Home and the ladys would match up to the womans whose name was Ugh! so the pair would be the homes and the ugh lees