When is enough enough?

Pat D — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:50:41 GMT

How many times do we have to hear about our President saying disrespectful and incorrect things and showing his ignorance before we decide that he is a thoughtless barbarian with no grasp of decent social skills?

RE: When is enough enough?

Molly — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:17:44 GMT

The answer to this question is: we have heard his old stories TOO MANY TIMES ALREADY. BUT what can a single person do to stop it! Now that is MY question.

RE: When is enough enough?

Pat D — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:27:45 GMT

Thanks for your response, Molly, it is encouraging to hear that someone else feels as I do about our new President.

One voice is loud up close, but looses with distance; two voices are louder and go further; three voices will not only begin to be heard, but will enocourage each other.

The Election that put President Obama in the White House was decided by 3,000,000 votes out of over 100,000,000...49,000,000 did not want him as President and I assure you that after his performance in the first 6 months of his administration, there are many more that feel that way!...That is our base, not just us two...Keep sounding your voice!

There are provisions in the Constitution to impeach a President and they can be activiated by the people...It could happen if there are enough who feel as we do.

RE: When is enough enough?

dripbydrip — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:39:14 GMT

No different then the last one and I can guarantee you the next one will make mistakes as well.

RE: When is enough enough?

Pat D — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:09:25 GMT

I appreciate your response, Drip, but it puzzles me somewhat.

Exactly what do you mean?...Do you think that President Bush showed disrespect to individuals and groups in this country?...Do you think that he spoke before he had the facts?...Do you think that President Bush showed disrespect for our allies and apologized to our enemies?

RE: When is enough enough?

dripbydrip — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:35:09 GMT

No, I just think that no matter if I agree or disagree with the President they are like you and I and they are bound to say stupid things. I can not imagine the pressure that goes with that job and why anyone would want to put themselves in that position. That's all. By the way, I enjoy reading what you have to say even though we do not always share the same views.

RE: When is enough enough?

Pat D — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:35:15 GMT

Thank you, Drip, I appreciate your thoughts.

If I may, I might add that when a person runs for a high office such as president, that person should be held to a higher standard than each of us because he or she is representing all of us and as such should be on guard at all times to say and do the right things to fulfill that responsibility, don't you agree?

RE: When is enough enough?

dripbydrip — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:21:05 GMT

I agree and that's why I was so disappointed with our last president. If Obama fails to uphold the high standards of the office, he will not be getting my vote next time, I can guarantee you that.

RE: When is enough enough?

Pat D — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 05:58:32 GMT

I am curious, Drip, as to why were disappointed in President Bush...What did he do or not do that was disappointing to you?

RE: When is enough enough?

dripbydrip — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:02:57 GMT

As far as I am concerned he is history. I am more concerned about our present situation.

RE: When is enough enough?

Pat D — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:20:21 GMT

I hear what you are saying, Drip, but you dropped some bad stuff on George Bush before...Are you just going to drive off and not explain why you feel that way?...That kind of thing is where the liberal media gets its reputation as the "Drive by Media".

Do you see where that would happen?...Do you think it fair to the Republican party to lodge an accusation like that against our last President with no explaination?

Thanks in advance for your response.

RE: When is enough enough?

Comeonpeople — Sat, 05 Sep 2009 20:46:43 GMT

Here are some excerpts from that hypocrite Pat D., who is nothing more than a filfthy descendant of rapists:

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Anything important is never left to the vote of the people. We only get to vote on some man; we never get to vote on what he is to do.
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I know many racists, comeon, and most of them by far are black...You are among that number, I think, because you seem to lump white folks all together...I'll bet you accuse others of doing that very thing!

You either did not read my post carefully or you purposely mischaracterized it because you claimed that I said some things that I did not and you misquoted others.

I am not particularly proud of the fact that my ancestors owned slaves; the thought is repugnant to me…What I was saying is that my family did treat these people with enough dignity that they wanted to and did stay with the family even after the union troops told them to leave…Surely that must indicate some thought processes between them that were positive.

You have made some broad based and unfounded statements about me, so I think I can do that as well about you;

I think you are an angry young Negro who wants to blame everyone else for whatever ills he has experienced in his life or any other black of which he has heard…You believe that all non-black people are evil and out to get the blacks any way they can unless they are subverting themselves to the whims and paranoia of some blacks.

You forget that the Negroes in Africa sold their fellow blacks into slavery to begin with…That doesn’t make slavery right, but you should heap some of your anger and blame on those folks as well.

I don’t whine, you impudent little jerk…And you know that you would not have the freedoms that you are abusing if my generation had not fought and bled and died to protect and preserve them for you and others like you…How far do you think the black movement of the sixties and seventies would have gotten under German or Japanese rule?...How dare you disrespect those who came before you and prepared the way?!...HOW DARE YOU?!

Over my fifty years in the business world I assisted many young folks in their careers, many of whom I ended up working under in later years…Many of these folks were non-white, most of these were black…I was called stupid by my fellow managers and executives for giving them a chance to prove their worth by putting them in traditionally white roles…And the vast majority of them succeeded!...Proud of my actions?...No, but I am very proud of what they did!...I do not appreciate your arrogant suppositions about me and my actions.

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"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." Martin Luther King, Jr.

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"Negroes" Hah! That's a good one old fart. I didn't misread anything that you said. You said that because you were angry with me that you regretted "assisting" black people in their careers, who eventually surpassed you. First of all ethically in the workplace people should be judged based on merit, you a**hole. So by not interfering in someone else's opportunities you were being lawful, which is an expectation. Nobody owes you for that. Secondly, it's a good thing I was raised better than to think that the actions of one white person should dictate how I treat or think of all whites since I spent the first part of my career in health care and the second in finance. What an idiot you are for even suggesting that you should go out and shoot "my type" as if you would even recognize my race if you saw me. I've had clients that I've worked with for six years that thought I was white. So good luck trying to be selective of the targets you hope to gun down because your feelings got hurt. By the way, I'd really like to see the company that has all of those blacks, or as you like to call them "Negroes" in key positions of power. The fact that the "young people" surpassed you may have nothing to do with you because if you could get ahead, you would. You were probably a less than mediocre worker who liked to take credit for the successes of others who only patronized you. What exactly are traditionally white roles, anyway?

As for the slaves your family owned being emancipated, where were they supposed to go you idiot? With no property, jobs, money, or family connections to speak of after a lifetime of torture, rape, and abuse that surely was a spirit breaking, soul stealing experience. What exactly were they free to do? I still think you should give your family to Sally Rucker's for free labor as penance. They probably would be much kinder to your relatives, unless of course you are related already.

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Anything important is never left to the vote of the people. We only get to vote on some man; we never get to vote on what he is to do.
Will Rogers

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Comeon, I have tried to be a civil as I could to you and you have each time come back to me with venom and hate filled rhetoric that indicates to me that you did not understand my post nor did you want to do so…I guess it is time to speak my mind and let be ended at that.

You seem to have a problem with “Negroes”…Well, just what the hell do you want?!...You didn’t like “colored”; you didn’t like “nigger”; you didn’t like “black folks”; you didn’t like “darkies”; and you didn’t like anything long…I think you just want to try to jerk people around and watch them dance, you ignorant idiot!

I wasn’t angry and I didn’t assist anyone in their careers; they were the best at what did, but I was under pressure to bury them anyway and I didn’t do it…I gave them the same opportunity that I would have given anybody, you jerkweed!...I don’t think you were raised better than anything, Comeon!...You were raised as a black bigot and a racist and I can see that in your writing…It will do you no good to deny it…You want to blame everything bad that ever happened to you on some white person or white policy when those are the people who brought you and your kind out of the ignorance and poverty that your own people sold you into so many years ago…If your ancestors had not come to this country, no matter what the circumstance of that might be, you would be in the jungles of Africa chasing down wild hogs for dinner…That is what your problem is you poor bastard!!!...You don’t know how to handle that knowledge!

What gives you the idea that I want to shoot anybody?...You are way off base or you have me confused with someone else.

If you had lived through the real turmoil in management at the top during the 1950s, 60s, and 70s, you arrogant little snot, you would know that the law was one thing and the way we actually did things was something again…Some of us promoted the deserving people regardless of color, but most promoted the “acceptable ones” and found good reasons why the numbers did not balance out…If you don’t know what “traditional white roles” are, then you are even more ignorant than I thought…you need to study up a little on the movement if you don’t know that little piece of information, pea brain.

As for my family owning slaves, you have no information as to the details and neither do I, but when have you known a rational farmer to abuse his livestock?...I am quite sure you, with your smart mouth and surly attitude would have had the snot slapped out of you often, but if you read the diaries kept at the time by both the slave owners and the few slaves that could write (yes, Sally Rucker could read and write) you find a peaceful life even though most of the slaves wanted desperately to be free…And many of the owners freed them before the law required it.

Bottom line, Comeon, in my opinion, you and folks that behave as you do are the biggest reason that we still have a problem with race relations in this country…You spew forth your hate and inflammatory rhetoric and distort facts to suit your agenda and seem to want to blame everybody else for your own laziness and the failings in your own life…And you can just stop your bragging now about how successful were; I don’t buy a bit of it because I have never seen a truly successful person of any race who behaves as you do…Stop your whining and crying and get out there and do something positive to solve these problems that you think are there instead of getting so negative and pissing people off…that won’t get you anywhere!

RE: When is enough enough?

Comeonpeople — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 19:55:18 GMT

Just exposing a weak-minded racist fool for what he really is. You should know this started because he boasted about how his family owned slaves and threatened violence-first with a slap and then with a gun when he said he was too old to fight-he didn't like what and how I said things to the idiot posters like him and couldn't handle it. I shared back that in my family, which has been college educated since the turn of the century with regards to both the men and the women, argued the Brown vs. Board of Education case before the Supreme Court when he said my generation should be thankful to his. Neither Pat D. nor his disgusting slave owning family sounds like they contributed anything meaningful to our great nation, and it's obvious he's bitter because his only claim to being special is the idea of white supremacy. Even the white people I know are ashamed of white supremacists like Pat D., and I'm glad his kind is dying out and will be left in the dust by progressive, compassionate, educated, and hard working people of all ethnic, religious, and national origins. We voted and won. Get over it!

RE: When is enough enough?

Fsess51 — Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:39:04 GMT

You're kidding right?

RE: When is enough enough?

Comeonpeople — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:45:37 GMT

More idiocy from the ever present filfthy descendent of rapists Pat D:

For instance; if I look at Webster's definition of "racist", I find that you fit the definition to "T"...You have called me a racist on several occasions, but I do not believe that any race is inherently inferior to another...You, on the other hand, have stated many times that you consider the white race morally degenerant and down right mean as compared to the black race...Also, there is no person alive today who has owned slaves or been a slave, so get over it...You ignore the obvious and strain over the insignificant.

And here are examples of how this white supremacist scumbag lies, and then tries to hold other people accountable for his own behavior:

You seem to have a problem with “Negroes”…Well, just what the hell do you want?!...You didn’t like “colored”; you didn’t like “nigger”; you didn’t like “black folks”; you didn’t like “darkies”; and you didn’t like anything long...

Here he gets enraged after I point out the fact that by referring to blacks as "Negroes" it only proves how out of touch he is with today's cultural norms and slanders an entire group of people with racial slurs. I on the other hand have never once used a racial slur nor made any generalizations about whites. In fact I have made it clear the distinction between white supremacist scumsuckers like Pat D. and normal people. Here's more from that jackass:

I wasn’t angry and I didn’t assist anyone in their careers; they were the best at what did, but I was under pressure to bury them anyway and I didn’t do it…You want to blame everything bad that ever happened to you on some white person or white policy when those are the people who brought you and your kind out of the ignorance and poverty that your own people sold you into so many years ago…If your ancestors had not come to this country, no matter what the circumstance of that might be, you would be in the jungles of Africa chasing down wild hogs for dinner…That is what your problem is you poor bastard!!!...You don’t know how to handle that knowledge!
If you had lived through the real turmoil in management at the top during the 1950s, 60s, and 70s, you arrogant little snot, you would know that the law was one thing and the way we actually did things was something again…Some of us promoted the deserving people regardless of color, but most promoted the “acceptable ones” and found good reasons why the numbers did not balance out…If you don’t know what “traditional white roles” are, then you are even more ignorant than I thought…you need to study up a little on the movement if you don’t know that little piece of information, pea brain.

Here you can see how entitled this white supremacist feels about controlling opportunities in the workplace regardless of civil liberties or constitutional law. He contradicts himself from an earlier post about how he "helped" minorities exceed his own success and "almost regrets" doing so because he doesn't like the things I write. This wrant comes from my pointing out the obvious that anyone who exceeded him did so by their own merit since it's the top that brings people upward, not the bottom propelling them up the ladder as anyone who works in the corporate environment knows. I would further that any people of color who did so in an environment where "traditional white roles" are protected went above and beyond. He also couldn't tell me just where this magical workplace was that had so many blacks in upper management. It's also interesting to note how the white supremacist doesn't get that I would obviously know what "traditional white roles" are being black in the workforce and regularly dealing with that small contention of white supremacists on a regular basis, but ask him to expand on it since he obviously has seen and participated in white supremacist oppression while at the same time denying it really exists, particularly among Republicans as he argued to ArmyBrat75.

As for my family owning slaves, you have no information as to the details and neither do I, but when have you known a rational farmer to abuse his livestock?...I am quite sure you, with your smart mouth and surly attitude would have had the snot slapped out of you often, but if you read the diaries kept at the time by both the slave owners and the few slaves that could write (yes, Sally Rucker could read and write) you find a peaceful life even though most of the slaves wanted desperately to be free…And many of the owners freed them before the law required it

Here he once again extolls the virtues of slavery, but has yet to explain why he wouldn't want his own family to be slaves if it was such a wonderful experience. The white supremacist point in raising slavery towards blacks in an argument is simply that when their points are proven illogical and ignorant they want the "elite" black person, often referred to as "uppity", to know that there was a time when they would have been able to own said black person and would have been entitled to the abuses that come with-rape, torture, and murder. The fact that many white supremacists still engage in such behavior, and always towards people that are isolated, aged, or too young to defend themselves as is typical with any terrorist coward, is what makes people like Pat D. such a plague in our society.

I sincerely hope that there are not many of your type out there because if there were to be, God forbid, armed conflict, I would hate to have to kill too many of you myself.

And lastly, the above sentiment demonstrates how the white supremacist, in his personal frustration at his own inadequacies, extrapolates his rage against anyone with brown skin or a Jewish name. He actually threatens to shoot on site any non-white person because he doesn't like what one black person says. Ironically, he is more likely to target the "Sally Ruckers, or good Negroes" he talks about because they are more likely to have darker skin than me and any of my relations who are often confused as white-in part because of skin tone, and in part because of education and ability to articulate. I can't tell you how many people I work with "just can't figure out" what I am or state, "there must be some white in you because I really like you" since the white supremacist is so wholly invested in the assumed inferiority and criminality of black people. It blows their mind every time when they meet someone who doesn't look or act like they could be sharecropping, the only acceptable "Negroe" people like Pat D. can tolerate.

RE: When is enough enough?

IamQweenBee — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:52:52 GMT

Pat D,

There is a LARGE list of things Bush did that was disappointing. I'm sure you have that list, but, just in denial. So gracing you with an explanation is like going down a dead-end street.

RE: When is enough enough?

IamQweenBee — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:57:35 GMT

I apologize but I don't need to be validated to stand firm on what I believe. If I need to be validated, then maybe I am not sure of my beliefs. Sorry, but, I just see too much of one needing others to agree to make them feel justified.

Bottom line...there isn't anything that horrible about our president and I don't need 50,000 other people to come on this blog and agree with me to know that.

RE: When is enough enough?

IamQweenBee — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 04:07:23 GMT

Hey Pat,

I'm going to play devil's advocate with your question and turn it around...
When is enough enough?
How many times do we have to hear about some insane organization/person being disrespectful and saying incorrect things about our president and showing their ignorance before the rest of us decide that they are thoughtless barbarians with no grasp of decency?

RE: When is enough enough?

the bruce — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:14:40 GMT

Iamqueenbee,

Regarding your statement about being validated, well said, well said.

the bruce

RE: When is enough enough?

the bruce — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:21:09 GMT

Pat D,

It is clear that thinking is beyond hard for you in the face of your hate for the President who looks like your families former slaves who stayed with your slave holding ancestors of their own free will, if free will can be said to even exist for former slaves.

However, try harder.

the bruce

RE: When is enough enough?

the bruce — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:26:58 GMT

Pat D,

Why does the President of the United States have to be a barbarian. Does the content of the Presidents character stand for nothing in your world. Even I gave Mr. Bush credit for having the killing be away from our front porches.

Ancestral memories invading your current state of mind eh. Or could it be that you simply cannot stand that your ancestors could not stay out of the corn crib. Or perhaps it is just the color of his skin which you cannot stand.

More than likely, what you hate is Mr. Obama does not know his place and aspires to what you have reserved for your own people all this time.

Too bad, you lost the election and let us not forget than our own Mr. Jefferson and Mr. Franklin wrote than "all men are created equal", among other things.

the bruce