A mystery reveald/Can you see it?

richard — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:05:53 GMT

Revelation 18:1,After these things I saw another Angel come down from Heaven, having great Power; and the Earth was Lightened with His Glory.moving on to revelation 19:10, And I fell at His feet to worship Him. And He said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy Brethern { think fellowservant and of thy brethern!} that have the testimony of Jesus ; Worship God:for the testimony of JESUS IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY. "CAN YOU SEE IT NOW"? THINK ON THIS; IF YOU CANNOT GRASP THE DEPTH OF IT YET ' THE BOOK OF THE WORD OF GOD IS WRITTRN AS A SCROLL AND NOT BROKEn INTO CHAPTERS AND VERSE'S EXCEPTP BY MAN! so reading from rev.18:1. to and through to Rev.19:10 is where the angel and John stoped that Revelation to us. then John will continue with another Angel. So now who is this Angel. so by the words thereself this angel came from the time of the Rapture, after the LORD HAD RISON. So who is this Angel. lets speculate to bring this more into view! this Angel could be Me, or this Angel could be you! Or whosoever God has assigned to do the revelation of Jesus to John ! Now can you see it?

RE: A mystery reveald/Can you see it?

Rose — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:27:47 GMT

Why would this upset me? I do not fully understand the entire piece but understand the love & wrath of God. What we send out or give to a fellow human being, good or bad, it comes back to us, sometimes threefold. That I do believe w/ all my heart. I also believe we can be transformed in many, many ways, so much depends on how we live our lives.

RE: A mystery reveald/Can you see it?

Kid — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:54:21 GMT

Richard, the mystery of revelation is reveled today through Jesus Christ.

Nothing is a mystery of the word of God that was in Jesus Christ. To receive that same (mystery) that spiritual understanding that word of God that scripture that was in Jesus Christ and was the word of God in the flesh, ALL we have to do is Go to Christ and repent and through Jesus Christ we are born again with the holy spirit of God, and it is that holy spirit of God that gives us the spiritual understand of what once was a mystery, we can have the same spiritual understanding of Gods word as Jesus Christ had and that Christ was in the flesh.

Nothing in Gods word that Christ understood from God (Christ was that word in the flesh) is kept from us today and that (mystery) that word that understanding is given spiritually from the holy spirit of God THROUGH Jesus Christ when we Go THROUGH Christ and are born again with the holy spirit of God.

However that understanding does not come all of a sudden maybe for some like Paul, but if we remain sin free through Christ and ask God for understanding spiritual understanding and do the will of God and seek we will be given the same knowledge and understanding as God gave Christ, there will be no mystery ALL will be understood spiritually through Jesus Christ from the holy spirit of God, ALL will be reviled AMEN.

RE: A mystery reveald/Can you see it?

Kid — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:02:47 GMT

           Jesus Christ comes for ALL God's children, the blessed and the self damned, all at the same time, at the seventh trump "we shall all be changed" {1 Cor 15:51}, at the Second Advent out of the only two Advents witnessed to in Scripture:

    1 Cor 15:51-52
    51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep [die prior to Second Advent], but we shall all be changed [ALL those alive at the Second Advent],
    52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump [the seventh, when Christ returns at his Second Advent]: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible [in our spiritual bodies, not rotting to dust like our flesh bodies do - they 'corrupt'], and we shall be changed. (KJV)

        There are only two Advents witnessed to in Scripture {Zech 9:9 (First Advent); Zech 9:10 (Second Advent)}. This is also why Jesus, when reading from the book of Isaiah in the Synagogue in {Lk 4:17-21} had to stop reading at the middle of verse {Isa 61:2} when He was reading the Scripture that spoke of Him, because the words that came after "To preach the acceptable year of the Lord" would not be fulfilled until His Second Advent:

    Luke 4:17-21
    17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
    18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
    19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
    20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
    21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears. (KJV)

        Below is the Scripture Christ was referring to, the words in bold are the words that He could not finish reading to them at that time and still have been able to say that: "This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears" because it will not be fulfilled until the Second Advent:

    Isa 61:1-3
    1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
    2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;
    3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified. (KJV)

         There is no selective taking out, no partial Second Advent , no pre-second ''Advent'' Advent, not three Advents but only two, and the Bible declares the same.

        Perhaps if you review your thinking on the matter, you may find that you also do not believe in a Rapture, but rather, you simply believe what the Bible says about the chronology of end-time events:

    * The Second Advent with Armageddon at that moment & ALL changed to spiritual bodies (still not judged) - man NEVER again in the flesh body.
    * Then the 1000 year Millennium teaching time {Rev 20:1-6}.
    * Then satan loosed a little while to test those taught in Millennium {Rev 20:7-8}.
    * Then God destroys those who follow satan after the Millennium, satan cast into Lake of Fire (commonly referred to as Hell) {Rev 20:9-10}.
    * Then Judgment Day {Rev 20:11-13}.
    * Then all that offend destroyed in Lake of Fire (commonly referred to as Hell) {Rev 20:13-15}.
    * Then the Heaven Age - eternal {Rev 21:1-end of Bible} (till the end time which never ends).

No Rapture in there is there!!!