What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

American Patriot — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:12:08 GMT

H. J. Res. 5: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second...

Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.

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Lido — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:19:21 GMT

Insane. There should be term limits on Congress too.

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LocoLady — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:27:41 GMT

I don't think Obama will finish out this year let alone run for a third term. He must know something we don't know. Bill Clinton tried to do that and they wouldn't allow him to do it, why would they allow this President to do it?

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Undertaker — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:52:32 GMT

I think a U.S. Presidential election ,Should do away with the Electoral college , And do away with the Primaries , That's wasting tax money

On November of every 4 years , What ever U.S. Presidential candidate gets the most popular votes should be elected U.S. President And who ever wins , Should pick his running mate of his /her choice as U.S. President and his /her cabinet

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

finabiscotti — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:15:03 GMT

Radical Leftist - ZELAYA - in Honduras tried to do it - and was removed from office - by the military.

Radical Leftist - Usurper Mubarack Hussein Obama - has followed through with his threats - to cut all humanitarian aid to Honduras - to force the people of Honduras to re-instate ZELAYA.

Obama's propoganda is that it was a coup - when it was not. The people and the courts removed Zelaya from office.

The people of Honduras took to the airwaves questioning whether the President of the United States was aware of their country's history - or aware of the Constitution of Honduras.

Zelaya had initially taken over the office as the President of Honduras - through a hostile government takeover - by force - that was funded by radical leftist HUGO CHAVEZ, the Dictator of Venezuela.

The people of Honduras questioned President Obama's motives - to uphold the efforts of a person such as Zelaya trying to change their Constitution to remain in power as a DICTATOR -

and to pay attention to Obama's threat to cut all humanitarian aid - to a country such as Honduras whose people wanted to live in a democratic society - and had followed the Constituition of Honduras to have Zelaya removed from office through its court's rulings -

but that Obama was using his office as the President of the United States to protect the interests of radical leftist governments - and radical leftists DICTATORS such as Zelaya and Chavez -

in which the people of Honduras sent a message to the people of America - that everyone in America should realize Obama is a radical Leftist - Obama should be removed from office - just like Zelaya -

before Obama tries to change the US Constitution to remain in office as a Dictator.

That is my view - where Obama is headed - just like the DemocRAT Party tried with Clinton.

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finabiscotti — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 00:59:40 GMT

David Horowitz: Obama ‘Manchurian Candidate’

Monday, September 14, 2009 1:35 PM

In a lead story published this past weekend on Frontpagemag.com, conservative thinker and best-selling author David Horowitz likens President Barack Obama to the "Manchurian Candidate" — a tool of the far left fostering the implementation of its radical agenda.

In the 1959 book "The Manchurian Candidate" by Richard Condon — which has been made into two movies — an American soldier is captured during the Korean War, taken to Manchuria in China, and brainwashed into being an unwitting assassin for the communists.

He becomes part of a plot to kill a U.S. presidential nominee to aid the ascension of the "Manchurian Candidate" — a candidate secretly backed by communists.

Horowitz is a former leftwing radical who turned conservative. He sees Obama’s manipulators as a coalition of left-wing groups who have helped pave Obama's road to the White House.

One is the Center for American Progress, which is funded by billionaire George Soros and headed by John Podesta, co-chair of the Obama transition team.

Another is the Apollo Alliance, a "coalition of radicals, left-wing union leaders and corporate recruits, which had a major role in designing Obama's green economy plans, including the 'cash for clunkers' program," Horowitz writes on the FrontPageMag.com Web site.

Apollo Alliance's board includes Van Jones, who recently resigned as Obama's "green jobs czar" after his past inflammatory statements came to light.

Horowitz notes that Jones is a "self-styled 'communist' and a proponent of the idea that the Katrina catastrophe was caused by 'white supremacy.'"

A key moment in the progress of the left-wing coalition came in 2004 when Soros decided to integrate "anti-American radicals" — including left-wing unions, environmental radicals, and the political organization ACORN — "into the structure of Democratic Party politics," writes Horowitz, founder of The David Horowitz Freedom Center and author of the new book "One Party Classroom."

Soros created what Horowitz called a "Shadow Party" to torpedo President George W. Bush's re-election effort in 2004.

"Soros failed to achieve his goal in 2004 but he went on working to create new elements of the network, such as the Apollo Alliance," Horowitz wrote.

Horowitz argues that Obama’s true colors are beginning to show to the American people.

"Just eight months into his presidency, however, a new Barack Obama has begun to emerge. With unseemly haste Obama has nearly bankrupted the federal government, amassing more debt in eight months than all his predecessors combined. He has appeased America’s enemies abroad and attacked America’s intelligence services at home. He has rushed forward with programs that require sweeping changes in the American economy and is now steamrolling a massive new healthcare program that will give the government unprecedented control of its citizens."

As for Van Jones, "the rest of us should be wondering who his sponsors were within the White House," Horowitz observed. "Then we should ask ourselves what they are planning next."

Read David Horowitz’s “The Manchurian Candidate” on Frontpagemag.com.

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

Whirlwindflower — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:07:25 GMT

Actually they have tried to do it before. In my opinion, they should only serve one 4 year term. With Obama he should not serve any because he is not qualified by birth or military knowledge.

But then, I don't think the money guys are too happy with him right now. When the money guys not happy........they take you out. That is what really happened with Lincoln and John F. Kennedy. They just had fall guys take the rap.

It would be better to take Obama out legally(before they do)because if we show him to not qualify........then all the laws that he passed........ everything is illegal. Which means the money guys go bankrupt, because they loaned money to someone without a legal right to represent us. Then the money guys are also exposed and left without all their money.

I pray it will happen that way.

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

Pat D — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:14:43 GMT

Absolutely not!!!...I think that two terms is probably appropriate...Further, I believe at this point if Congress should pass such a bill the citizens of this great country would rise up and impeach the entire lot of them!!!...Of course they could not do that, but isn't it a nice thought!

"I think a U.S. Presidential election ,Should do away with the Electoral college , And do away with the Primaries , That's wasting tax money"

John_Cena; If the President were elected on a popular vote, the large cities in the most populous states would end up electing the President and Vice President...That would not be a good thing because what is good for these areas is not necessarily good for the rest of the country...I live in a rural area and I do not want New York, ect, choosing my President...BTW, the primaries are paid for by the political parties, not the taxpayers because they are not a government function and not required by the Constitution.

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Sweet Gypsey — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 02:34:57 GMT

To have a 12 year term limit is insane, it's giving people carte blanche as far as to the limitations of the constitution as it was established by F. D. Roosevelt. Do we really want that? I sure don't, only the "Bleeding Hearts" would say yes to something like that.
Tanya

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MrWebster — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 02:45:19 GMT

I, for one, would take a chance on the will of the American people, even though they are many times stupid and even though the wrong one is in power now. The equation always seems to balance itself in the end. Either we want to live in a democracy or we want some other form of government. It's worked for more than 200 years. I say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I doubt that the Founding Fathers passed the 22nd Amendment.

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ferencz999 — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:42:36 GMT

ABSOLUTELY "NOT" that is and will be an act of treason but a law if they pass a bill to ammend i suppose they can try...only thing this country is in such an uproar NOW that would put us over the precipice! Where did you hear about this i mean in NOW times????? I have heard it discussed but dissed in the past....

I just cannot stand seeing that mans face on TV anymore he has been in office 6 months or therabouts and he has had his mug on TV more than any PRES in my lifetime and I am the 60s kids gang!

It has NOTHING to do with RACE actually w/me he is quite CHARMING and KINDLY ACTING!!!! Thats the devil in the details acting!!!!! He is dangerous and we are in danger of terrible things in this country.......Thats common sence and READING and STUDYING UP ON HIM!!! There is also too much unknown about him he holds all to his vest DOCUMENTS re: health in DETAIL..college THESIS and any and all college material and whom he hung out with what groups he associated himself with its all a blank page..except for CHICAGO and the GANG we all know and do not trust from that CRIMINAL STATE from which he canme MAYOR DALEYS VICE CHICAGO, ILL.! {which ALL PRES/s have released I may add except HIM and a few others with minute details}.....he is hiding ALOT that is NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF AMERICA!

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buckeye — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 04:12:26 GMT

Three major change that need to be done but I never see them happening:

Do away with the Electoral College.

Have an electoral system similar to the system used in Britain that is based more on ideological beliefs. If the leader is not performing up to standards a vote of confidence is called. If he or she fails there are new elections. Snap elections.

The campaign season for the leader of a country needs to be shortened. Once a President is elected there is already talk about the next elections. Far too much time and money is spent on this process.

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Nanadee — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:06:25 GMT

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RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

R.A. Shipman — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:49:23 GMT

Any change to our Constitution has to be carefully thought out just as the original document was by our founding fathers. Maybe we should go back to having laws hand written by one person and then we would not have 1,000 plus page bills brought before the Congress. Has anyone bothered to count the number of words in this new healthcare bill? By having computers to create such a bill it someday can conceivably get to be over a million words in a new bill and with the way Congress thinks it might even get to be a billion words or even a trillion words. We will get to the point that it will all be electronic and never even put on paper to be signed.

Let us not forget that there was a reason for having safeguards like political party primary elections for nominees to the National office of President and the Electoral College otherwise the entire process could be controlled in these days by a software program. It has gotten to the point that the media pretty well controls the popular vote now and I hope that the election process of our Constitution is never modified as that would be another part of that document to be ignored and disregarded making our freedoms fought so hard for in the past just another memory. The liberals in Washington already interpret our Constitution in ways that suit what ever agenda or flavor of the month they are peddling.

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cjhr43 — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:43:26 GMT

No, no, no... a thousand times no!!!

Term limits are there to protect us from government control. The longer a president is in office the more powerful he/she becomes. The problem with our country now is not having strictor term limits in other areas of government. The government is "of the people, for the people and by the people." We have government taking over too much already...

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GWObama — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:29:46 GMT

Two terms is enough. I don't think Obama deserves one term let alone two. He may not be a legal citizen. It has not been proved or disproved that I know. The main thing is, it looks like he may have grounds to be impeached on general principles. He has done nothing but weaken the security and and financial stability of this country since he has been in power. Once again, by appointing people to czar positions, he is trying a end around our legal system to change the rules, laws, Constitution which govern our country. As Whirlwindflower mentioned earlier I hope is taken out of office legally so that it nullifies all the laws and actions he has taken.

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profitbob — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:31:50 GMT

Despite voting in every election since the Nixon era, I have never voted for anyone who actually won. Limiting them to one term would suit me better than letting them have three terms.

   If an amendment is repealed, though, my preference would be the 16th Amendment.

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Pat — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:31:27 GMT

Absolutely not. Six months is too long for the president that we have now. With the reputation of the czars that he has appointed and other cabinet members he should be impeached. No other president has had such criminals in his administration. Obama is trying to destroy our country. Legal or not legal he should go.

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meowkats — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:09:27 GMT

I said this 6 months ago, we should have term limits for all Congress. Someone on a blogg wrote me and said; by the time a Representative gets to know the ins and outs of Washington is term is up. They also stated that it takes a long time to pass a bill. Hummmmm not in this administration!!! I want the American people to vote on term limits.

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MikeBuilder123 — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:50:10 GMT

It is obvious that President Obama has a very short and very selective memory. It seems that the only President we have ever had who served more than two terms was Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Even he, the incumbent, knew the wanton and unforgivable abuse that having anyone in power too long would cause.

That is the specific reason why Obama demands to get unlimited power, to suspend the Constitution ninety days at a time, and otherwise tyrannize America to the point of civil war.

That is the reason he ran up $19 trillion in pork barrel spending to repay his foreign political supporters (mostly corporations) and will spend another $quadrillion before his insane spending spree is over.

All is for pork barrel buddies.

Most will be funneled back to his numbered Kenyan accounts.

Obamites knew about that and did it because they hate America with all the loathsome passion that Obama learned from Jeremiah Wright. No one will ever forget that he signed off all his sermons with, "God bless America? HELL NO! God Damn America and all the right wing subhumans that ever supported America!"

Obama lapped up that venom (and a whole lot worse) enthusiastically for the last two decades at least.

Sadly, that is exactly the same hatred that Obama programmed into his disciples.

Racist hate is a lousy thing to have in the Oval Office. Now, Obama wants to keep that same unforgivable racist hate there forever, or at least until Obama gets killed.

If I had my way, term limits to ONE term in the Senate, two terms in the House, and re-election to the Presidency on an annual basis, all from direct popular votes, cast in person. That should stop corrupted county auditors from stuffing falsified votes into the box. Mail in votes, of course, are all "sorted" to prevent anyone the county audotor does not want elected, from receiving votes.

That is how we got the traitor Obama but the reverse does not hold true of Bush: on recount, the popular vote was over 67% in favor of Bush but "undesired" votes were systematically deleted. Even so, Bush was the greatest President since Reagan.

Communists and Democrats (the same people) hated both because they did what was proper, lawful, morally appropriate, decent, sustainable, consistent, therefore, right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/22nd_Amendment

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finabiscotti — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:03:13 GMT

Californislam

Another leap for Islamic supremacism in the United States of Amerabia. Attention parents, homeschool your children!
California court bans "Ave Maria" in public schools, allows Islamic prayer

Relax! It's multiculturalism, and multiculturalism is grand!
"Ban Ave Maria in the California Public Schools but Allow Islamic Prayers," by Joseph Klein for the NewsRealblog, September 13:

[...] The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals issued an opinion on September 8th upholding a public school superintendent's decision to ban a student group's performance of an instrumental version of "Ave Maria" at their public high school's graduation ceremony. The superintendent's reason for the ban: because the song might be interpreted by some as an endorsement of religion.

Remarkably, this left-leaning federal court sees no inconsistency between its ruling several years ago allowing Islamic prayers to be said on a daily basis in public school classrooms, and its current decision to prohibit a one-time instrumental performance of a Christian-inspired musical piece.

What will be next on the list of banned musical compositions -- The Battle Hymn of the Republic?

I wouldn't rule that out.

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Voice of Reason — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:59:50 GMT

AP, thank you for the invite. The purpose for term limits is to prevent a monarchy and allowing domination of one philosophy over the other. The sad thing is that these days there is not much difference between the two parties.

Another sad fact is that the office of the president has been high-jacked by special interest groups to fulfill their agenda of financial domination for the New World Order referred to by George Hubert Walker Bush.

Isn't it curious that a virtual unknown like Obama could rise to the level of president with such little previous experience? Why are people like Soros or even Buffet (who supported the bail-outs) supporting Obama? Why are these Billionaires who you would thing would be conservative backing a socialist agenda? Why is a private company, the Federal Reserve, running our national monetary system? Why are there serious discussions about a world currency and changing the trading currency for oil from the dollar to this new world currency?

Who are the Bilderberg Group, the Tri-lateral Commission, the Center for Foreign Relations? Why are most of Obama's Cabinet, Advisors, and Czars part of these organizations? Why did Henry Kissinger, a member of these organizations, hire Obama out of law school and groom his career? Why did Obama have such strong ties to the Kennedy's (Bilderberg Group members)?

Who is really running this country or the world economy? Why was the bailout rushed through congress? Were they threatened by the Bilderberger's to run the world into a depression? Why is oil traded as a commodity? Why do these ultra rich buy ships and fill them with oil and moor them in international waters to flood or starve the market of oil to manipulate prices? Where did Geitner work before he came to Obama's Cabinet, the Federal Reserve. Hillary Clinton's husband, Bill, is a member of Bilderberg Group as is Geitner, Raum Emmanuel and Eric Holder.

I, of course, want to see term limits, 2 for the president. 2 for the senate, 4 for the House and I think we need 10 year limits for the Supreme Court. But in spite of this I think we need to expose these ultra-secret organizations that are really running the world and take heed of what Thomas Jefferson said that the greatest threat to our freedom and liberty are the bankers and financial manipulators. We need to take back our government from these robber barons and reinstitute a real president of the people, by the people and for the people.

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Moosemose — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:49:30 GMT

With Obummer in charge they only need 6 months to RUIN A COUNTRY, so why more time??? If a President is a Good President, he should in the current time limits be able to WORK WITH Congress to accomplish Americas Current Needs & Outline Game Plans for a Beneficial Future!!! GREED however seems to Over Rule Sane Bahavior & Reasoning!!! John

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Pat — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:40:49 GMT

I agree that there should be term limits on congress and the senate. Some of those old men are too old to even walk into the building to vote so there is no way that they can really do the job that they are being paid for.

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

finabiscotti — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:28:52 GMT

If Obama sticks around any longer - the United States of America is going to be the new Nation of Islam!

This is what I found in the archives of Atlas Shrugs website:

Obama's Muslim Speech "Revealed"

Frank Gaffney heard what I heard in Cairo -- particularly worth mentioning is Barack Hussein Obama's quote that he had "'known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed.' An interesting choice of words that, 'first revealed.' Not 'established,' 'founded' or 'invented.'

The President is, after all, a careful writer, so he must have deliberately eschewed verbs that reflect man's role, in favor of the theological version of events promoted by Islam."

Here an excerpt of his observations here: Deciphering Obama in Cairo

At least as troubling are what amount to instances of presidential dawa, the Arabic term for Islamic proselytization. For example, Mr. Obama referred four times in his speech to "the Holy Koran." It seems unimaginable that he ever would ever use the adjective to describe the Bible or the Book of Mormon.

Then, the man now happy to call himself Barack Hussein Obama (in contrast to his attitude during the campaign) boasts of having "known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed." An interesting choice of words that, "first revealed." Not "established," "founded" or "invented."

The President is, after all, a careful writer, so he must have deliberately eschewed verbs that reflect man's role, in favor of the theological version of events promoted by Islam. Thus, Mr. Obama has gone beyond the kind of "respectful language" he has pledged to use towards Islam.   He is employing what amounts to code - bespeaking the kind of submissive attitude Islam demands of all, believers and non-believers alike.

Elsewhere in the speech, Mr. Obama actually declared that "I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear." Note that, although he referred in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian-Arab conflict to "vile stereotypes" of Jews, he did not describe it as "part of his responsibility as President" to counter anti-Semitic representations.

Unremarked was the fact that such incitement is daily fare served up by the state media controlled by his host in Egypt, President Hosni Mubarak, by the Palestinian Authority's Mahmoud Abbas and by every other despot in the region with whom Mr. Obama seeks to "engage." Worse yet, no mention was made of the fact that some of those "vile stereotypes" - notably, that Jews are "descendants of apes and pigs" - are to be found in "the Holy Koran," itself.

Perhaps the most stunning bit of dawa of all was a phrase the President employed that, on its face, denies the divinity of Jesus -

something surprising from a self-described committed Christian.

In connection with his discussion of the "situation between Israelis, Palestinians and Arabs," Mr. Obama said, "...When Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed (peace be upon them) joined in prayer."

Muslims use the term "peace be upon them" to ask for blessings on deceased holy men. In other words, its use construes all three in the way Islam does - as dead prophets - a treatment wholly at odds with the teachings of Christianity which, of course, holds Jesus as the immortal Son of God.

If Mr. Obama were genuinely ignorant about Islam, such a statement might be ascribed to nothing more than a sop to "interfaith dialogue." For a man who now pridefully boasts of his intimate familiarity with Muslims and their faith, it raises troubling questions about his own religious beliefs. At the very least, it conveys a strongly discordant message to "the Muslim world" about a fundamental tenet of the faith he professes.

Finally, what are we to make of Mr. Obama statements about America and Islam? Since he took office, the President has engaged repeatedly in the sort of hyping of Muslims and their role in the United States that is standard Muslim Brotherhood fare.

In his inaugural address, he described our nation as one of "Christians, Muslims and Jews." Shortly thereafter, he further reversed the demographic ordering of these populations by size in his first broadcast interview (with the Saudi-owned al-Arabiya network), calling America a country of "Muslims, Christians and Jews."

Yesterday in Cairo, the President declared that "Islam has always been a part of America's story." Now, to be sure, Muslims, like peoples of other faiths, have made contributions to U.S. history. But they have generally done so in the same way others have, namely as Americans - not as some separate community, but as part of the "E pluribus unum" (out of many, one) that Mr. Obama properly extolled in The Speech.

Unfortunately, a pattern is being established whereby President Obama routinely exaggerates the Muslim character of America. For example, at Cairo University, he claimed there are nearly seven million Muslims in this country - a falsehood promoted by the Muslim Brotherhood and its friends - when the actual number is well-less than half that.

Shortly before The Speech, in an interview with a French network, Mr. Obama said, "If you actually took the number of Muslims Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world."

Incredible as these statements may seem, even more astounding is their implication for those who adhere to Shariah. The President's remarks about America as a Muslim nation would give rise to its treatment by them as part of dar al-Islam, the world of Islam, as opposed to dar al-harb (i.e., the non-Muslim world).
Were the former to be the case, Shariah requires faithful Muslims to rid the United States of infidel control or occupation. And we know from last year's successful prosecution of the Holy Land Foundation - a so-called "charity" engaged in money-laundering for one of the Muslim Brotherhood's terrorist operations, Hamas - that such an agenda tracks precisely with the Brothers' mission here: "To destroy Western civilization from within America, by its own miserable hand."

This reality makes one of Mr. Obama's promises in Cairo especially chilling. Near the end of his address, the President expressed concern that religious freedom in the United States was being impinged by "rules on charitable giving [that] have made it harder for Muslims to fulfill their religious obligation." He went on to pledge: "That is why I am committed to working with American Muslims to ensure that they can fulfill zakat."

Let us be clear: Muslim charities have run into difficulty with "the rules" because they have been convicted in federal court of using the Muslim obligation to perform zakat (tithing to charity) to funnel money to terrorists.

At this writing, it is unclear precisely what Mr. Obama has in mind with respect to this commitment to "ensure [Muslims] can fulfill zakat."

But you can bet that the Muslim Brotherhood will try to translate it into the release of their imprisoned operatives - and new latitude to raise money for their Shariah-promoting, and therefore seditious, activities in America.

I could go on, but you get the point. The Speech contained a number of statements about the laudable qualities of America, the need for freedom in the Muslim world, about women's rights and the desirability of peace.

But its preponderant and much more important message was one that could have been crafted by the Muslim Brotherhood: America has a president who is, wittingly or not, advancing the Brotherhood's agenda of masking the true nature of Shariah and encouraging the West's submission to it.

So much for Obama posing as a FAKE CHRISTIAN - and the cause to have the CROSS covered-up in Georgetown for his speech in a "church".

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

Comeonpeople — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:39:40 GMT

More idiocy from the ever present filfthy descendent of rapists Pat D:

For instance; if I look at Webster's definition of "racist", I find that you fit the definition to "T"...You have called me a racist on several occasions, but I do not believe that any race is inherently inferior to another...You, on the other hand, have stated many times that you consider the white race morally degenerant and down right mean as compared to the black race...Also, there is no person alive today who has owned slaves or been a slave, so get over it...You ignore the obvious and strain over the insignificant.

And here are examples of how this white supremacist scumbag lies, and then tries to hold other people accountable for his own behavior:

You seem to have a problem with “Negroes”…Well, just what the hell do you want?!...You didn’t like “colored”; you didn’t like “nigger”; you didn’t like “black folks”; you didn’t like “darkies”; and you didn’t like anything long...

Here he gets enraged after I point out the fact that by referring to blacks as "Negroes" it only proves how out of touch he is with today's cultural norms and slanders an entire group of people with racial slurs. I on the other hand have never once used a racial slur nor made any generalizations about whites. In fact I have made it clear the distinction between white supremacist scumsuckers like Pat D. and normal people. Here's more from that jackass:

I wasn’t angry and I didn’t assist anyone in their careers; they were the best at what did, but I was under pressure to bury them anyway and I didn’t do it…You want to blame everything bad that ever happened to you on some white person or white policy when those are the people who brought you and your kind out of the ignorance and poverty that your own people sold you into so many years ago…If your ancestors had not come to this country, no matter what the circumstance of that might be, you would be in the jungles of Africa chasing down wild hogs for dinner…That is what your problem is you poor bastard!!!...You don’t know how to handle that knowledge!
If you had lived through the real turmoil in management at the top during the 1950s, 60s, and 70s, you arrogant little snot, you would know that the law was one thing and the way we actually did things was something again…Some of us promoted the deserving people regardless of color, but most promoted the “acceptable ones” and found good reasons why the numbers did not balance out…If you don’t know what “traditional white roles” are, then you are even more ignorant than I thought…you need to study up a little on the movement if you don’t know that little piece of information, pea brain.

Here you can see how entitled this white supremacist feels about controlling opportunities in the workplace regardless of civil liberties or constitutional law. He contradicts himself from an earlier post about how he "helped" minorities exceed his own success and "almost regrets" doing so because he doesn't like the things I write. This wrant comes from my pointing out the obvious that anyone who exceeded him did so by their own merit since it's the top that brings people upward, not the bottom propelling them up the ladder as anyone who works in the corporate environment knows. I would further that any people of color who did so in an environment where "traditional white roles" are protected went above and beyond. He also couldn't tell me just where this magical workplace was that had so many blacks in upper management. It's also interesting to note how the white supremacist doesn't get that I would obviously know what "traditional white roles" are being black in the workforce and regularly dealing with that small contention of white supremacists on a regular basis, but ask him to expand on it since he obviously has seen and participated in white supremacist oppression while at the same time denying it really exists, particularly among Republicans as he argued to ArmyBrat75.

As for my family owning slaves, you have no information as to the details and neither do I, but when have you known a rational farmer to abuse his livestock?...I am quite sure you, with your smart mouth and surly attitude would have had the snot slapped out of you often, but if you read the diaries kept at the time by both the slave owners and the few slaves that could write (yes, Sally Rucker could read and write) you find a peaceful life even though most of the slaves wanted desperately to be free…And many of the owners freed them before the law required it

Here he once again extolls the virtues of slavery, but has yet to explain why he wouldn't want his own family to be slaves if it was such a wonderful experience. The white supremacist point in raising slavery towards blacks in an argument is simply that when their points are proven illogical and ignorant they want the "elite" black person, often referred to as "uppity", to know that there was a time when they would have been able to own said black person and would have been entitled to the abuses that come with-rape, torture, and murder. The fact that many white supremacists still engage in such behavior, and always towards people that are isolated, aged, or too young to defend themselves as is typical with any terrorist coward, is what makes people like Pat D. such a plague in our society.

I sincerely hope that there are not many of your type out there because if there were to be, God forbid, armed conflict, I would hate to have to kill too many of you myself.

And lastly, the above sentiment demonstrates how the white supremacist, in his personal frustration at his own inadequacies, extrapolates his rage against anyone with brown skin or a Jewish name. He actually threatens to shoot on site any non-white person because he doesn't like what one black person says. Ironically, he is more likely to target the "Sally Ruckers, or good Negroes" he talks about because they are more likely to have darker skin than me and any of my relations who are often confused as white-in part because of skin tone, and in part because of education and ability to articulate. I can't tell you how many people I work with "just can't figure out" what I am or state, "there must be some white in you because I really like you" since the white supremacist is so wholly invested in the assumed inferiority and criminality of black people. It blows their mind every time when they meet someone who doesn't look or act like they could be sharecropping, the only acceptable "Negroe" people like Pat D. can tolerate.

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

lawbug — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:03:04 GMT

In fact the term limit should be 4 years and no more who does he think he is KING OBAMA as BILL CLINTON tried this and it did not work. And as for CONGRESS AND SENATE they should have only a 8 year at most term limit not indefinate as it is now.

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

finabiscotti — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:05:42 GMT

By his government takeovers of different industries from banking, automobile, heathcare system - forcing UNIONS - forced UNION DUES - and FORCED UNION EXTREMISM -

obama is forcing everyone to give up a piece of their pie - so that others can have more - such as ACORN!

NEA and SEIU Diverted Forced Union Dues to Corrupt ACORN Offices

You may have heard about the growing scandal involving the pro-forced unionism Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now (ACORN) in New York, Baltimore, Washington, and now, California.

For those who missed it, numerous ACORN agents were caught on camera giving advice to undercover journalists on how to open an illegal brothel, launder its profits, defraud banks and the IRS, and commit a host of other illegal activities.

According to The Washington Examiner, teacher union officials have contributed over $1.3 million (in mostly forced union dues) to ACORN since 2005.

The National Right to Work Foundation decided to do a little digging into union financial disclosure forms on the Department of Labor's website. After examining union financial records, it turns out that officials of several high-profile unions diverted large sums of mostly forced union dues dollars to the very same ACORN offices in Washington and New York that are implicated in the hidden camera scandal.

Check out the Foundation’s Freedom@Work blog to learn more about how much the NEA and SEIU unions funneled into these particular ACORN offices – and how they used forced dues revenue from nonmembers to do it.

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

lawbug — Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:04:50 GMT

Boy is that a crock of BS if i ever heard one who thought of this should be put out of there MISERY as they have rocks in there heads no brains just rocks.

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

Sweet Gypsey — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:12:12 GMT

   "This was Sent in by One of Our Best Posters"

Good Morning,

   I opened this email Sunday afternoon and forwarded to several people. No big deal. However, as I was saying goodbye to my little Granddaughter last night, (We are heading to Florida for several weeks), and as I looked at that little face the contents of this Email came back to me. I will let you be the judge, but it just reconfirms my belief that we need to stand united against this attack on our country. If not for us, for our children, and our children's children.

B.

Unite behind Obama?

On Dr. Charles Stanley's Sunday program "In Touch", the guest speaker Dr. David Barton - on Obama:

Respect the Office? Yes.
Respect the Man in the Office? No, I am sorry to say.

I have noted that many elected officials, both Democrats and Republicans, called upon America to unite behind Obama.
Well, I want to make it clear to all who will listen that I AM NOT uniting behind Obama! I will respect the Office which he holds, and I will acknowledge his abilities as an orator and wordsmith and pray for him, BUT that is it.

I have begun today to see what I can do to make sure that he is a one-term President!

Why am I doing this? It is because:

- I do not share Obama's vision or value system for America;

- I do not share his Abortion beliefs;

- I do not share his radical Marxist's concept of re-distributing wealth;

- I do not share his stated views on raising taxes on those who make $150,000+ (the ceiling has been changed three times since August);

- I do not share his view that America is Arrogant;

- I do not share his view that America is not a Christian Nation;

- I do not share his view that the military should be reduced by 25%;

- I do not share his view of amnesty and giving more to illegals than our American Citizens who need help;

- I do not share his views on homosexuality and his definition of marriage;

- I do not share his views that Radical Islam is our friend
and Israel is our enemy who should give up any land;

- I do not share his spiritual beliefs (at least the ones he has made public);

- I do not share his beliefs on how to re-work the healthcare system
in America ;

- I do not share his Strategic views of the Middle East ; and

- I certainly do not share his plan to sit down with terrorist regimes such as Iran .

Bottom line: my America is vastly different from Obama's, and I have a higher obligation to my Country and my GOD to do what is Right!

For eight (8) years, the Liberals in our Society, led by numerous entertainers who would have no platform and no real credibility but for their celebrity status, have attacked President Bush, his family, and his spiritual beliefs! They have not moved toward the center in their beliefs and their philosophies, and they never came together nor compromised their personal beliefs for the betterment of our Country!

They have portrayed my America as a land where everything is tolerated except being intolerant!

They have been a vocal and irreverent minority for years!

They have mocked and attacked the very core values so important to the founding and growth of our Country!

They have made every effort to remove the name of GOD or Jesus Christ from our Society!

They have challenged capital punishment, the right to bear firearms, and the most basic principles of our criminal code!

They have attacked one of the most fundamental of all Freedoms,
the right of free speech!

Unite behind Obama?        Never ! ! !

I am sure many of you who read this think that I am going overboard, but I refuse to retreat one more inch in favor of those whom I believe are the embodiment of Evil!

PRESIDENT BUSH made many mistakes during his Presidency, and I am not sure how history will judge him. However, I believe that he weighed his decisions in light of the long established Judeo-Christian principles of our Founding Fathers!!!

Majority rules in America, and I will honor the concept; however, I will fight with all of my power to be a voice in opposition to Obama and his "goals for America."   I am going to be a thorn in the side of those who, if left unchecked, will destroy our Country ! !

Any more compromise is more defeat!

I pray that the results of this election will wake up many who have sat on the sidelines and allowed the Socialist-Marxist anti-GOD crowd to slowly change so much of what has been good in America!

"Error of Opinion may be tolerated where Reason is left free to combat it." - Thomas Jefferson

GOD bless you and GOD bless our Country ! ! !

Thanks for your time, be safe. "In GOD We Trust"

"If we ever forget that we're one nation under GOD, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

Sweet Gypsey — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:18:50 GMT

"Was sent in as an E-Mail by One of Our Best Posters"
   I had tears as I read it, we have lost so many

Good Morning,

As usual this morning was typical. Coffee and the remote. The quote I am about to describe really pissed me off. On the Morning Joe show they were having the obligatory roundtable. The conversation was about executive pay. Yadda Yadda Yadda. No front page news there.
The comment that really got me, was when the older balding fellow that is a mainstay on the show who's first name is Mike made an offhand comment. Sorry, but I forgot his last name. He said the following, and this is paraphrased. "Of all the things that are going on today, guess what they are having in Washington today? The Iraqi Business Conference!" He went on to make the statement that this event came at a tremendous price of many dollars and 4500 lives.

I'm sorry, but screw you. How about the fact that the Iraqis are having a business conference versus being maimed and tortured by Sadam Hussan. The fact that the elevation of Iraq from third world status to a viable functioning democracy. A democracy that is able to send their representatives to Washington. Forget the fact that Barak Obama and Company have spent in seven months our children's future, and are now working on our Great Great Grandchildren's legacy through lies and deceit in the name of reform. Forget the fact that the price tag of Iraq is a mere pittance to the money they want to spend in the name of Healthcare and Energy reform. Not to mention what they have spent to date.

   Heaven forbid if he could have mentioned the fact that the 4500 brave men and women of the armed service DID fulfill their dream of helping to create a free state in the mist of a totalitarian world. That because of their sacrifice the Iraqis can now send men and women to Washington for such an event. No, No No!!! That's not part of the agenda. How about a simple "THANKS" to our troops for their sacrifice. How about we achieved the goal, and the juice was worth the squeeze.

   I will take it one step further. If ONE soldier dies in Afghanistan today, his or her death should be placed at the foot of Obama. When our President puts a political agenda in front of the lives or our armed forces he should be held accountable for his actions, or lack of. The latter I think.

   Maybe we should pull out of this fight? Maybe we should allow the Taliban to regain control of the area? Maybe when we do get HIT again by these radicals we will once again regain our sense of purpose? The purpose that we once had in the days preceding 911? How soon we forget .Please don't get me wrong when I say the above. I hope it never happens. However, with the mentality that is rampant among the leftist elites, I honestly think that it takes the aftermath of a tragic event to help regain our insights of purpose. That an event of magnitude would serve to wake up our great Country to elect a President that could act decisively and get the JOB done!!! That an event would serve as a reminder that the world is not a kind place, and that we are a target of evil. That an event would serve as a vehicle to send the politically correct cowards back into the holes from which they have emerged.

Will history repeat itself. Carter, Obama then ???.

God Bless our Troops.

B.

God Bless America

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

finabiscotti — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:25:44 GMT

Here is something else that obama has to FIX:
(hat tip X)
Black Panther Case Headed for Public Hearings?
The U.S. Civil Rights Commission is considering holding public hearings to investigate the disputed Black Panthers voter intimidation case, Main Justice has learned.
10/21/09
By Steve Bagley
A plan circulated last month (Sept) by the commission envisions possibly one hearing in Philadelphia, where members of the militant New Black Panther Party were accused of intimidating voters by standing outside a polling place last November in quasi-military garb, one of them holding a night stick, according to a document reviewed by Main Justice.
Another hearing is tentatively slated in Washington early next year, and would seek to call current and former Justice Department officials to testify.
The hearings would keep in the public eye a controversial and racially tinged case that has already been a significant distraction for the new Obama Justice Department.
More: http://countusout.wordpress.com/2009/11/02/black-panther-case-headed-for-public-hearings/

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

Sweet Gypsey — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:39:06 GMT

    "The First E-Mail That I Always Go To"
"My Eyes Are Still in Tears, I Don't Show my Emotions"


Good Morning Friends, As most of you know, We have a small Kettle Corn business. We have a lot of shows lined up this winter in southern Florida. This little endeavor is not being done for the love of big money. It is a lot of hard work, and has all of the pitfalls and challenges of any business. We have now done four events and our little company has proved to us to be very rewarding, not in a monetary sense, but in ways that money can't buy.

This weekend we were doing a show in Lake City Florida. Most people call them events, but we call them shows. Why? Because we entertain. We interact with the audience, we create a set, and we really do put on a show. Quite frankly this is right up my alley, and I feel very comfortable in this element. In other words I get to act, to say, and to be, whatever the scene requires without fear of reprimand for being crazy. As D. told my son, "Bring on the Show Pony, and let him sell." Gotta love it.

Something happened this weekend that kinda brought everything full circle

The atmosphere was very festive. Kids and parents alike were dressed in costumes of all descriptions. My favorite was Mr. Pumpkin Head, and his wife Wonder Woman. Anyone who will put a REAL pumpkin on his head and walk around for hours in 85 degree heat, has my vote. When they stopped by our booth to buy a bag of Kettle Corn she was a classic. She looked at Donna and said, " I could have married Brad Pitt, but look what I got. Mr. Stupid Pumpkin Head!" Mr. Pumpkin Head didn't say a word, just bobbed his stupid Pumpkin Head up and down. The guy had my respect.

Later on I noticed in the crowd a young lady, and who I assumed was her sister, walking through the event. The one girl was afflicted with Downs Syndrome. I latter found out the afflicted girls name was Chris. It seemed obvious that she was in utter amazement over the costumes, the band, and the festive atmosphere. She too, loved Mr. Pumpkin Head, and I could see her pointing and laughing at his outfit. It was obvious that she was having a great day. What was also obvious was that her sister was not. I can only imagine how hard it is to care for the special needs of Chris. My hat is off to her.

Chris and her sister eventually stopped by "Kernel B's" to buy a bag of Kettle Corn. D. had gone to lunch and left me to watch the stand. I am sorry she was not there.

   The sister asked me how much for a bag. I told her, and she proceeded to dig into her purse for her money. When she paid, I gave her a bag and a smile, and told her thanks. It was at this point something awesome happened.

   Chris grabbed for the bag and was immediately rebuked by her Sister. I could see the look of disappointment on her face. I motioned for her to come to me. I gave her a bag of Corn for herself. As she clutched the bag a look came over her face. I will never forget that look. Never!

   She proceeded to put the bag down and grabbed my hand.

She looked me in the eye and in" SIGN", while mouthing the words said, " I LOVE   YOU."

All I can say is that the Show Pony cried, and is crying as he is writing this now.

I will simply let you be the judge of what I learned on Saturday.

A simple hint,"It aint about the money."

B.

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

Sweet Gypsey — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:36:51 GMT

"TO MY Marco and Nic and other Patriots, Thank you"

Subject: FW: Is this an uprising coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not mincing words as he sees it !!!!

"The Axis of Idiots"
From the Podium:
J. D. Pendry, Retired Sergeant Major, USMC

FROM THE PODIUM
This retired USMC Sgt. Major has his Stuff together.

Jimmy Carter, you are the father of the Islamic Nazi movement. You threw the Shah under the bus, welcomed the Ayatollah home, and then lacked the spine to confront the terrorists when they took our embassy and our people hostage. You're the "runner-in-chief."

Bill Clinton, you played ring around the Lewinsky while the terrorists were at war with us. You got us into a fight with them in Somalia and then you ran from it. Your weak-willed responses to the USS Cole and the First Trade Center Bombing and Our Embassy Bombings emboldened the killers. Each time you failed to respond adequately, they grew bolder, until 9/11/2001.

John Kerry, dishonesty is your most prominent attribute. You lied about American Soldiers in Vietnam. Your military service, like your life, is more
fiction than fact. You've accused our military of terrorizing women and children in Iraq. You called Iraq the wrong war, wrong place, wrong time, and the same words you used to describe Vietnam.. You're a fake! You want to run from Iraq and abandon the Iraqis to murderers just as you did to the Vietnamese.. Iraq, like Vietnam, is another war that you were for, before you were against it.

John Murtha, you said our military was broken.. You said we can't win militarily in Iraq. You accused United States Marines of cold-blooded murder without proof and said we should redeploy to Okinawa. Okinawa, John? And the Democrats call you their military expert! Are you sure you didn't suffer a traumatic brain injury while you were off building your war hero resume? You're a sad, pitiable, corrupt, and washed up old fool. You're not a Marine, sir. You wouldn't amount to a good pimple on a real Marine's ass. You're a phony and a disgrace. Run away, John.

Dick Durbin, you accused our Soldiers at Guantanamo of being Nazis, tenders of Soviet style gulags and as bad as the regime of Pol Pot, who murdered two million of his own people after your party abandoned Southeast Asia to the Communists. Now you want to abandon the Iraqis to the same fate. History was not a good teacher for you, was it? Lord help us! See Dick run.

Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Carl Levine, Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Russ Feingold, Pat Leahy, Barack Obama, Chuck Schumer, the Hollywood Leftist morons, et al, ad nauseam: Every time you stand in front of television cameras and broadcast to the Islamic Nazis that we went to war because our President lied, that the war is wrong and our Soldiers are torturers, that we should leave Iraq, you give the Islamic butchers - the same ones that tortured and mutilated American Soldiers - cause to think that we'll run away again, and all they have to do is hang on a little longer. It is inevitable that we, the infidels, will have to defeat the Islamic jihadists. Better to do it now on their turf, than later on ours after they have gained both strength and momentum.

American news media, the New York Times particularly: Each time you publish stories about national defense secrets and our intelligence gathering methods, you become one united with the sub-human pieces of camel dung that torture and mutilate the bodies of American Soldiers. You can't strike up the courage to publish cartoons, but you can help Al Qaeda destroy my country. Actually, you are more dangerous to us than Al Qaeda is. Think about that each time you face Mecca to admire your Pulitzer..

You are America's 'AXIS OF IDIOTS.' Your Collective Stupidity will destroy us. Self-serving politics and terrorist-abetting news scoops are more important to you than our national security or the lives of innocent civilians and Soldiers. It bothers you that defending ourselves gets in the way of your elitist sport of politics and your ignorant editorializing. There is as much blood on your hands as is on the hands of murdering terrorists. Don't ever doubt that. Your frolics will only serve to extend this war as they extended Vietnam. If you want our Soldiers home as you claim, knock off the crap and try supporting your country ahead of supporting your silly political aims and aiding our enemies.

Yes, I'm questioning your patriotism. Your loyalty ends with self. I'm also questioning why you're stealing air that decent Americans could be breathing. You don't deserve the protection of our men and women in uniform. You need to run away from this war, this country. Leave the war to the people who have the will to see it through and the country to people who are willing to defend it.

Our country has two enemies: Those who want to destroy us from the outside and those who attempt it from within.

Semper Fi,
J. D. Pendry - Sergeant Major, USMC, Retired

This is a savvy man. He has nailed it down pretty good. Too bad it won't do any good. There won't be 1 in 10 that receive it who will forward it.

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

finabiscotti — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 10:19:20 GMT

If this doesn't get your attention as to what your "president" is all about, nothing will: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

BURN THIS VIDEO ON A CD.
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RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

finabiscotti — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:10:24 GMT

OBAMASTEIN may not be around - if indicted by LUIS MORENO-OCAMPO - as the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court:

(hat tip P)

http://www.lamecherry.blogspot.com

As a world exclusive, only to this blog again by God's Grace, I desire to alert the intelligent reader of a man who is Barack Hussein Obama's worst nightmare.
His name is Luis Moreno-Ocampo and he hails from that beloved nation of cowboys, hunting, agrarian and industrious Citizens of Argentina.
His calling in life was to prosecute the Trial of the Juntas, the first peace time prosecution of military commanders for mass murder and crimes against humanity in Argentina.
He would go on to prosecute the commanders for the Falkland War, two military rebellions and numerous high profile corruption cases.
After forming his own law firm, Mr. Ocampo would be elected in 2003, unopposed, to the ICC, the International Criminal Court as Chief Prosecutor.
It is most interesting in Mr. Ocampo has shown absolutely no bluff in his taking on criminal cases he has been criticized sometimes for. He charged the President of Sudan in 2008, Omar al Bashir with crimes against humanity, along with probing all over Africa for the same crimes.
What caught my attention in Mr. Ocampo was he selected some FOO, (Friends of Obama) in March 2008, in the FARC narco terrorists who were backed by Venezuelan, Nicaraguan and Cuban dictators.
Readers will note that it was FARC which President Bush eliminted in death sentences when the Persian Islamocommunists attempted to sell weapons grade uranium from Russia to this terror group to open a nuclear front for attacking American cities.
Readers will also note that it was this drug axis of communists who after a visit from Obama's associates in 2008, opened a pipeline into west Africa to supply cocaine into Eurasia via the Balkan narco Islamists there.
For Mr. Ocampo to be targeting FARC's para military commanders and those supporters outside Colombia is a most interesting shot across the bow for the narco communists now engaged in rapine across the Americas with a direct attack upon US finance being aided by Barack Hussein Obama, the Marxist protege of Bill Ayers.
The world exclusive in this is a little noticed story in Prosecutor Ocampo is that he is now focusing an investigation into the 1300 Kenyans who were slaughtered and three hundred thousand forced to flee the Rift Valley, when Raila Odinga unleashed rioting in Kenya when he lost the election to President Kibaki.
Some of the 1300 slaughtered by Odinga's Marxist terrorists were Christians locked into Churches and burned alive as the building incinerated to the ground.
Interestingly, Kenya will be holding elections in coordination with American elections and the official word has it the elite want the culprits arrested who committed the crimes against humanity before the elections are held.
For those who have not put this together, Raila Odinga is Barack Hussein Obama's cousin as in Cousin Odinga. The same Marxist who Obama raised a fortune for and illegally campaigned for, and, is tied to the genocidal murders unleashed by Raila Odinga to seize co power in Kenya.
Now does one start to see how Luis Morena-Ocampo is Barack Hussein Obama's worst nightmare?
Mr. Ocampo is more than connected on this world stage in being a visiting professor at Stanford and Harvard Law Schools (that seems to sound like Rockefeller connected), and a consultant to the World Bank (globalists) and the United Nations (Rothschilds of Europe) for his major connections.
This vaquero is a man with spurs, pistol, horse and he knows how to use them.
All of this is now just one legal finding away from exposing the terrorism of Raila Odinga who was seen like a puppy agreeing to the investigation by the ICC, and linking mass murder in Kenya to Barack Hussein Obama.
For sport, Joseph Farah should have Jerome Corsi who was almost murdered in Kenya in harsh detention to file a criminal complaint before the ICC and Prosecutor Ocampo, detailing how that government tortured him far worse than Gitmo.
Who runs the Kenyan government, why Cousin Odinga.
This blog never believes in coincidence. Therefore it appears that the people who utilized Barack Hussein Obama to plunder the United States into economic slavery are in the process of leveraging Mr. Obama's cocaine traffic out of South America and building a most internationally embarrassing crimes against humanity case in mass murder against the very Kenyan terrorists who Bearick Obama was funding and supporting.
That sounds a great deal like a nightmare scenario for the glow headed one. It also sounds like in the right central European political axis hands the perfect blackmail scenario for the guy the Norwegians just handed over a Nobel Peace Prize to.
Wouldn't that just be the senorita dancing around the fire to have all in one, Barack Hussein Obama, the first guy to win the Nobel Peace Prize, and the first guy to be an unindicted co conspirator for crimes against humanity involving mass murder.
We shall see how this plays out, but the genesis is now in place by the Europeans to turn the light of discovery on the Obamastein they created.
The fact though surfacing that Bearick and Muchelle is disliked and disdained in growing numbers across the globe that exile into Albania might be another prediction come true. The problem for the cherry pie eating Obama's though is, Prosecutor Ocampo even extradited Chilean General Carlos Prats from the United States for murder charges.
The world just shrunk where Bearick Hussein Obama can run and hide to a pineapple patch in the Solomon chain of the South Pacific.
This can be the ultimate humiliation for the United States of America, but considering it is what the Clintons, Gore, Kerry and Obama have been pushing for in Americans under international tribunals, what could be more fitting than usurper Obama caught in his own snare.
We will see how this South American cowboy runs this herd.

Obama's Kenyan Crimes Connection
Luis Moreno-Ocampo
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Check out - You Tube - "Inconvenience of the Truth" - Odinga, Obama
As a US Senator - Obama - traveled to Kenya - on the US taxpayer dollar - to campaign for Raila Odinga - running for president of Kenya, whose platform was to have Kenya become a safe haven for terrorists - and for Kenya to be placed under Sharia Law.
Odinga states in the video: "I am sanctioned by a US Senator to become the next President of Kenya" - and introduces obama as the US Senator.
The video also shows Odinga explaining his direct relation to Obama.
It also shows a common campaign mantra: "Vote for Change".
Radical Muslim militant Raila Odinga lost the presidential election, he incited the RIOTING - which can be viewed on the video documentary.

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

finabiscotti — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:42:58 GMT

Ranking Republican on Intel Committee Says Administration is Witholding Information on Fort Hood Attack,
Demands Intelligence Community Preserve Documents for Possible Congressional Probe

Monday, November 09, 2009
By Christopher Neefus
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/56879
"Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-Mich.), the ranking Republican on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said Monday that the Obama administration has been withholding “critical information” on the Fort Hood murders allegedly committed by Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan and is demanding that the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the National Security Agency and the Director of National Intelligence preserve documents relating to the incident for use in potential congressional investigation."

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

finabiscotti — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:45:10 GMT

(hat tip)
WAR IS DECLARED ON THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS
The socialist politicians had ample warning from "we the people" over the last year of the upcoming congressional massacre at the ballot box in 2010 if they failed to "hear us".
Anti-American elements lined up in the US Congress on the night of November 7th, 2009, in the shadow of veterans day, paying little attention to the terrorist attack at Fort Hood Texas, arrogantly ignoring voters undeniable message on Tuesday November 3rd, and proceeded with the attitude of a rapid dog to tear the US Constitution, freedom and liberty to bits by passing "Soviet style", healthcare legislation.
While military and civilian families in Texas and Florida were learning of their dead and wounded, Obama and his lap-dog liberal politicians were plotting a more sinister method of attack on America by capturing our personal freedom to determine our own healthcare needs. Undermining and destroying the fabric and foundation of America...undercover much like termites.
A clear picture of leadership is reflected by Mr. Obama in paying scant attention to the Texas loss of life, focusing on ego-centric political ambitions, choosing to spend a relaxing weekend in Camp David, while recent President and Mrs. Bush chose to visit the wounded in Texas.
There will be a no-holds barred, aggressive and focused effort by freedom loving Americans of all persuasions to defeat every single US Representative that voted for the healthcare bill (HR 3962)...let the war proceed.
http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

Sweet Gypsey — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:10:33 GMT

"Today This is What he Slipped into My E-Mail"
     "Know it is A Hard Day for A lot of Us"
Subject: Debt Power and Inflation

Robert,

Let me say thanks for all that you are doing at GETLIBERTY.ORG. I have been following your progress for months now, and it is stellar to say the least. However, there is one very important component that I think you need to add to your ever growing list. I am the first to admit that I know enough about politics and monetary policy to be dangerous. However, there are certain actions that I think even an idiot like me can see, yet have no explanation for. I take that back, the explanation is as plain as the nose on my face, and once explored goes back to the dawn of modern times. Trade, greed, and mans universal want of material things. It all boils down to MONEY!
No, this is not a liberal tirade against the sins of the free market. Just the opposite, as I believe that the free market is what will get us out of the current financial crisis. That is, if it is allowed to. Herein lies the problem. IF IT IS ALLOWED TO??

I know, what the hell am I talking about?

I am talking about the actions of our large financial institutions, and their current policies in the name of profits.

The actions that include receiving huge chunks of capital in the name of Stimulus, TARP, Economic Recovery Act, or whatever else the various governmental agencies can give a name too, then proceed to advance funds in the name of. Instead of loaning these funds back to the citizens, small business's, or farmers that gave them the funds via taxes/government, have taken the money's and invested in commodities and various stock markets around the world. Thus screwing the people. Again.
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My god what is wrong with this picture?

The Americans who have diligently paid their taxes, to have their hard earned dollars routed to the banks, who then refuse to make loans to these same people with their OWN money!

You see Robert, I was asking myself some very basic questions this weekend. Questions that didn't make sense.
How is it that Gold and Oil are rising, when the dollar is falling off a cliff. That the stock market is rising, yet jobs are being lost in record numbers. Finally, a national debt that is heading us into oblivion, not to mention a manufacturing base that has stalled to say the least. (Which I believe is contrary to what Joe Biden is saying)

The answer should have been clear to me, but I didn't pick up on it until I heard an economist state the obvious.
The banks are simply creating yet another financial bubble in the stock market by diverting OUR funds from us to other more lucrative avenues. My guess is they will not only make huge sums on the rise of the market, but also massive amounts on the fall. Selling short is still legal right??

In short, no pun intended, it is this new "ARTIFICIAL BUBBLE", that we need to bring into our discussions, along with all of the rest. We all know, or should know, that massive inflation is the Feds answer to our crippling debt. It is right around the corner. My kids will soon understand this new horror. The horror of inflation and all that it implies. Also, when this next bubble burst we need to ask ourselves several simple questions, "What is Americas landscape going to look like?" How bad is this potential? More importantly, what is the long term plan of those who are operating and directing these actions? Finally, how do we combat it? We know that the cause and effect is in the name of profit, or at least it use to be. Or, should we be asking this last question, "Is it possible that the cause and effect could be in the name of power and domination for the demise of all that we hold sacred?" It is possible you know. America is not infallible. No country is.

I guess the bottom line is this. As we are fighting what I maintain is "ALL OF THE ABOVE", this situation needs to be thrust into the mix. This final straw, in my opinion, has the potential to break all of our backs, or at a minimum, crack a few vertebrae. Let me state for the record, "I don't want to see the surgeon!"

Once again, thanks for all that you are doing, and hopefully this message has given you something else to think about. I think if we examine where we are, we may come to this conclusion. We are where we are simply as a result of the same power brokers performing various actions with the means to their own ends. That they are doing it over and over by using different actions, but achieving the same results. If we are going to get back to free markets, I think that we need to free the market?

Keep the faith my friend, we are going to need it if this levy breaks.

B.

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

American Patriot — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:24:19 GMT

12 months more will be a nightmare

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

Sweet Gypsey — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:08:20 GMT

"PLEASE VIEW NOW, VERY IMPORTANT"
           "THANK YOU"

http://www.floridasecuritycouncil.org/events.html

Dear Friends,

This will be very short and to the point.

I have not read Sal Salinskys Rules For Radicals. At this point in Obama's tenure, I don't think it is necessary. Why? Because we can watch the Obama's Rules For Radicals in real time.

When it was announced this morning that four of the Gitmo terrorist are going to be shipped to New York for trial it doesn't take a high paid political stradegist to look at the reasoning behind this action.

Simply put, this is yet another attempt at "Smoke and Mirrors" by the Obama administration. Another attempt to take our eyes off of the ball. I should say BALLS, as their are so many in the air it does get confusing. The Press will fall for this tactic yet again. In fact they already have.

In my opinion this action is out and out dangerous! Dangerous on many different levels.

We have a president who is a Muslim sympathizer. Lets just say it. When you look at his roots, his upbringing, his history, it all stands to reason. This is who he is. However, it is NOT who the American people are. We simply need to look at his actions to justify the statement. Do we not?

The link I have posted at the top of the page is CRITICAL to watch. If you do not do anything today, please take Eleven minutes and watch the FITNA clip by Gerrt Wilders. This man will enlighten you to the pitfalls of the road that we are heading down. As he points out the Dutch, and much of Europe have already traveled this route, and are now REGRETTING ever having ever set foot on this road. We DO NOT need to make these same mistakes! I have seen Mr. Wilders speak in person, and can tell you from the bottom of my heart, he knows the score, and is trying with all of his being to help guide us from a path best NOT taken. America needs to listen.

I promise you one thing. If you take the time to click on the link, you will understand. Understanding is key to what I now consider Americas victory.

One last statement as I am thoroughly pissed now!!

Once again, this man, our Commander in Chief, is playing with political dynamite in order to pursue his agenda. His ideology. An agenda that the majority of Americans do not want. An ideology the will destroy, if allowed, the core of our sovereignty. Our freedoms, our religions, and our way of life.

All in the name of FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE. Right!

Wrong. This is now a FUNDAMENTAL WAR!

If the son of bitches walk free in the name of political correctness we should demand that Obama be impeached.
If New York City is once again attacked as a result of these actions we should demand that HE face trial for these actions.
If this veiled attempt at taking OUR eyes off the ball for political reasons results in the death of one American, HE and anyone who has helped to precipitate these actions, should be held accountable.

In the name of Political INCORRECTNESS, "Don't you dare put me, my family, my friends, or my country in the cross hairs of your agenda."

Please watch the clip.

B.

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

finabiscotti — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:47:14 GMT

Which lib company flees NYC?

Liberals have an interesting pattern they follow. First, they vote in other liberals to office. Those elected liberals proceed to jack up taxes and try to control as much as possible. Everyone (including the liberals who voted for the liberals) gets annoyed at all the taxes and leaves for somewhere with less tax and less control. Then they repeat the process. The New York Times, who has championed progressives seemingly forever, has decided the only way to save jobs is to move them to states with low (or no) taxes. Unbelievable. ( Transcript, Insider Audio)

See Glenn on stage

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

finabiscotti — Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:26:11 GMT

Who is this guy?

Salute, pledge, something! Anything! Pretend to be a proud America, creep

The teleprompter is saluting. ! (photo hat tip Katherine)
FLASHBACK: Another great American O-moment:

Obama crotch salute
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Terror Front Behind Biggest Counterterrorism Seizures in U.S. history (Skyscraper, 4 Mosques) Gave Dirty Money to Bill Clinton

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

finabiscotti — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 12:01:10 GMT

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Rep. King 'Disgusted' by Terror Trial in NYC
Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:08 AM

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., joined a chorus of condemnation Friday over the Obama administration's decision to try five Sept. 11 suspects in New York City, not far from ground zero itself.

King, a member of the House Homeland Security Committee, told Politico.com he was upset that accused terrorists would enjoy the same rights as U.S. citizens. He said President Barack Obama was "caving into political correctness and the left-wing base of his political party." He also warned that the area srrounding the courthouse would turn into a "circus."

“I am really disgusted by it,” he told Politico. "To me, it’s truly an insult to the memory of those killed on 9/11."

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According to New York television station CBS 2 HD, King sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder in April in which he cited his concerns.

"The southern district courthouse is within walking distance of ground zero, City Hall … NYPD headquarters (and) Wall Street. … It is reckless to impose the risk of these trials on New York for no good reason," the letter said, according to CBS 2 HD.

King also told The Associated Press that the New York Police Department would be stretched dangerously thin by the security requirements for the trial. "They already have 1,000 cops working on counterterrorism," he told the AP. He also said the trial would make New York even more attractive to terrorists seeking a target.

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RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

Sweet Gypsey — Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:12:44 GMT

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"Thank you B."

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RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

Dawg — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 22:44:12 GMT

The Dems really want to turn us into communists don't they.

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

American Patriot — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:54:01 GMT

Where are all the man made disasters when you need one?

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

finabiscotti — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:56:45 GMT

While Obama is trying to come up with a means to stay in office for eternity - as a DICTATOR - obama's unconstitutional CZAR PALOOZA is imploding - as a reflection of Obama's THUGOCRACY - and obama as a Con Artist.

White House Science Czar Involved in Climategate
Friday, November 27, 2009 2:21 PM

By: L.D. Breen

You haven’t heard it from America’s mainstream media yet – even Fox News hasn’t covered it – but the director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Dr. John P. Holdren, is a key player in the Climategate e-mails flap, which is shaping up as the biggest scandal in the history of modern science.

Holdren is an intractable global warming activist with no time for climate change skepticism. In a New York Times article, he contended that such questioning “has delayed – and continues to delay – the development of the political consensus that will be needed if society is to embrace remedies commensurate with the challenge.”

He has also become something of a celebrity, rubbing shoulders with the Hollywood luminaries at President Obama’s state dinner Tuesday night honoring Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, and repeatedly appearing as a guest on the David Letterman show.

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But the Canada Free Press this week revealed that the former Harvard professor and Al Gore global warming adviser features prominently in the thousands of e-mails and other files made public after the hacking last week of a computer server used by the University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit.

The most embarrassing item for the Obama Administration may be a 2003 exchange between Holdren and TCSDaily.com editor-in-chief Nick Schulz. Schulz challenged Holdren on whether downplaying the significance of the Medieval Warm Period required “what lawyers call the burden of proof.”

Holdren’s retort contained a remarkable assertion coming from a scientist: “In practice, burden of proof is an evolving thing – it evolves as the amount of evidence relevant to a particular proposition grows.”

Canada Free Press columnist and Canadian climatologist Dr. Tim Ball says of the correspondence with Schulz that Holdren’s “entire defense and position devolves to a political position.”

The CRU documents also find Holdren disparaging solar physicists Sallie Baliunas and Willie Soon, contrarians regarding surface temperatures over the past millennium, who were colleagues of Holdren at Harvard, and Ball wonders if Holdren may have intimidated the two scientists before they “suddenly and politely withdrew from the fray,” as Ball describes it.

As Newsmax has previously reported, Dr. Holdren has a history of alarmingly extremist views. He co-authored a 1977 book, “Ecoscience: Population Resources, Environment,” advocating compulsory abortion for purposes of population control, mass sterilization, government-dictated family size like China’s one-child policy, and a “planetary regime” to be policed by the United Nations.

Not long before the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade ruling legalizing abortion-on-demand throughout America, Holdren co-authored “Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions,” which seems to argue that even years after birth a baby is not yet a human being.

“The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth,” claims the book’s “Population Limitation” section, “and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being.”

Holdren’s “Human Ecology” warns of large-scale disaster that might require “involuntary fertility control” to stop population growth. “Compulsory control of family size is an unpalatable idea, but the alternatives may be much more horrifying,” the Holdren book suggests.

As a member of President Bill Clinton’s Committee of Advisers on Science and Technology, Holdren chaired a study providing the groundwork for U.S.-Russian cooperation on securing nuclear materials in the aftermath of post-Cold War disarmament.

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Holdren is one of the Clintons' stable of stars - as CON ARTISTS - validating Al Gore's claim to fame in the Global Warming scam - that obama just had to have as his CZAR of Science - trying to pull off his Cap & Trade Scam policy.

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

finabiscotti — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:45:02 GMT

Here is another way in which Obama is "indoctrinating" young school children:

(Hat tip P)

article by Jim Hoft found on http://www.biggovernment.com entitled:
FISTGATE: BARACK OBAMA'S SAFE SCHOOLS CZAR'S 2000 CONFERENCE PROMOTED
"FISTING" TO 14-YEAR OLDS
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Caution; Enter at your own risk. This is extremely disturbing ---- to read what Kevin Jennings is doing as our "Safe School Czar" This report contains material that is very explicit; --- BUT IT IS PUBLIC ACCESSIBLE
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http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/12/breaking-obamas-safe-schools-czar-is-promoting-porn-in-the-classroom-kevin-jennings-and-the-glsen-reading-list/

RE: What is you take on a president for 12 years or more?

Sweet Gypsey — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:59:19 GMT

"One of the Most Knowledgeable  Posters We Have Sent This"

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Subj: Fwd: Judge Napolitano

I hope the Judge decides to run in 2012. At least he calls a spade a spade!!! He may be the voice we have all been looking for?
B.

Subject: Fwd: Judge Napolitano

This is a MUST listen to speech!

Andrew P. Napolitano is a 59 year old former New Jersey Superior Court Judge. He is a graduate of Princeton University , and Notre Dame Law School .  At Princeton he was a founding member of the ConcernedAlumni of Princeton along with Justice Samuel Alito.
Judge Napolitano is the youngest life-tenured Superior Court judge in the history of the State of New Jersey .

Click belowand listen to Judge Napolitano's important message to all Americans.

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n2m-X7OIuY>